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    Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post
    this aint a movie.

    clottey > berto
    clottey = berto

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      Berto doesnt have the tools to beat Cotto, Clottey, Williams or Cintron. He's like a lightening fast 5'3 point guard playing in the NBA.. yeah he may look exciting against lesser opponents and have his moments but physically he doesnt have the tools to compete. He will get ****d by Cotto. He is straight media hype.
      Originally posted by dondi330 View Post
      clottey = berto

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        Originally posted by dondi330 View Post
        clottey = berto
        No, this is nothing short of a disgrace posting something so ******ed. Are you forgetting Berto only JUST beat Collazo while Clottey was SCHOOLING Margocheta until his hand was injured. Clottey has an iron chin, great defense and very underrated speed and power. He's also a big guy - coming into the ring at 160-175.

        Berto is too green, Cotto will hurt him Vargas - Trinidad style.

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          Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post
          you know that berto is a paper champ. he struggled badly against collazo and has no chance against cotto


          I don't doubt berto's heart or going 12 rounds, I doubt his skill. I doubt he can go 12 rounds with cotto. its like sending toddlers to work.


          if berto was KTFOing guys left and right then I'd say it will be interesting to see how cotto can take berto's shot, but that's not the case. we already know cotto can take berto's shots.


          but cotto beat them all except the one with plaster.

          but it won't be, not in june... maybe in 2 years.


          he alread did step up against collazo and barely got past him. he dont need to fight cotto in june. thats like throwing a goat in a cage with a lion.


          yeah, they all wanna see cotto take an easy fight
          did clottey not want to fight berto after the zab match?
          what makes clottey's career up to this point better than berto's/
          how do you know cloteey wouldn't struggle with collazo? you don't because clottey just sits on his ass and hopes a fight comes up instead of going and trying to make it happen, maybe if he would fight a quintanna or collazo it would give him more credibility

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            Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post
            you know that berto is a paper champ. he struggled badly against collazo and has no chance against cotto


            I don't doubt berto's heart or going 12 rounds, I doubt his skill. I doubt he can go 12 rounds with cotto. its like sending toddlers to work.


            if berto was KTFOing guys left and right then I'd say it will be interesting to see how cotto can take berto's shot, but that's not the case. we already know cotto can take berto's shots.


            but cotto beat them all except the one with plaster.

            but it won't be, not in june... maybe in 2 years.


            he alread did step up against collazo and barely got past him. he dont need to fight cotto in june. thats like throwing a goat in a cage with a lion.


            yeah, they all wanna see cotto take an easy fight
            How does that make him green? Your changing the subject. He shouldn't have fought for a title if eh wasn't ready to fight other champions. Like it or not, he's in their league now.

            Im not talking about your doubts, I said BERTO LEARNED, and BERTO proved to himself. Again, your changing the subject.

            How do we already know Cotto can take Berto's shots? Berto has explosive power and is very fast, he's deffinately capable of hurting Cotto. If you think Cotto can go in and walk through Berto's power I think your wrong.

            Yes he did beat them all. You just asked about when hes been hurt with uppercuts and I provided examples. If youve been driving drunk every weekend and havent crashed, does that mean you can never crash because you haven't crashed yet? No, it's still dangerous.

            2 years? Berto should have waited to get that belt then because like I said before, like it or not he's in the champion's league now. He's a world champion, we shouldn't hear he can't fight this or that guy for 2 years because he's green. HBO and DiBella have built him up against better and better opposition. Got him a title, beat a very tough former champ, now he can fight another champ.

            He steps up once and doesn't have to step up again? He had a tough fight, yea but he got the win, it was a learning experience, and nmow he can keep moving forward, not backward that makes no sense.

            Cotto fighting Berto is a unification fight between two of the best welterweights, that's not an easy fight by any means for either guy.
            Last edited by Boxer1590; 02-24-2009, 06:56 PM.

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              Originally posted by dondi330 View Post
              I personally believe that the only thing he will gain is more respect from the real and hardcore fans. Even beating Berto would give him respect because he took an "0"..Like Apollo Creed said" Someone steps in and whoops this chump where does that leave me?" Its better to beat a guy that is unbeaten then someone with losses (casual fan, which are majority).
              I hear you because it will look more impressive to the main stream market being that Andre Berto is an undefeated fighter. I can see that being a reason for Cotto to go for him especially since he has a title to go along with the "0" but I think a fight with Clottey would prove a lot to everyone as a whole because Clottey is a technical tough fighter that lasted 12 with Margarito and if Cotto could pull it off then it would show even more how durable and worthy he is of respect at 147.

              Berto would be a good fight and win for him but to me being a fan of boxing and seeing the best fights it would be too predictable for me to get excited about it. Remember also if he demolishes Berto then people will say that he took the easy fight again. Cotto would build his marketability up way more in the long run. Mosley/Berto to me would be more exciting and a good test for Berto. Not saying Cotto won't be but Cotto should continue to beat the Experienced Elite's. Mosley would be a good test for Berto. But I'm sure at this rate everyone will face each other at some point but Cotto should go for Clottey next.
              Last edited by GRUSTLER; 02-24-2009, 07:00 PM.

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                I have to jump in and pour some holy water on you for this comment... Berto is not even the man that Clottey is.. you can look and see that. Clottey will scare Berto. Berto just needs to be glad he fought Collazo before they threw him in against a top welterweight.. he will get murdered by any of the top welterweights.
                Originally posted by letsgobrady View Post
                did clottey not want to fight berto after the zab match?
                what makes clottey's career up to this point better than berto's/
                how do you know cloteey wouldn't struggle with collazo? you don't because clottey just sits on his ass and hopes a fight comes up instead of going and trying to make it happen, maybe if he would fight a quintanna or collazo it would give him more credibility

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                  Cotto vs Clottey, give Berto some time since he still on green, i wouldnt want that to be the reason why he would lose to Cotto, Cintron should work his way back up after that last fight he had which put him on low with alot of his fans, but now wit the Pac fight being talked about (if Pac wins) then Cotto-Mosley 2 wont happen for another year which is making Mosley older, i dont know, we just have to see all these fighters fight each other and winner vs winner and loser vs loser to go back up.

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                    Originally posted by letsgobrady View Post
                    did clottey not want to fight berto after the zab match?
                    clottey knows he's not in the same financial bracket as mosley and cotto, so he has to fight other guys that are in his bracket, like berto. thats why he said that.

                    what makes clottey's career up to this point better than berto's/
                    he went 12 rounds against margo and cotto quit against marg.

                    how do you know cloteey wouldn't struggle with collazo?
                    he went 12 rounds against margo

                    you don't because clottey just sits on his ass and hopes a fight comes up instead of going and trying to make it happen,
                    he cant fight if he promoter doesnt get him fights

                    maybe if he would fight a quintanna or collazo it would give him more credibility
                    he's got more credibility than berto.

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                      Originally posted by letsgobrady View Post
                      did clottey not want to fight berto after the zab match?
                      what makes clottey's career up to this point better than berto's/
                      how do you know cloteey wouldn't struggle with collazo? you don't because clottey just sits on his ass and hopes a fight comes up instead of going and trying to make it happen, maybe if he would fight a quintanna or collazo it would give him more credibility
                      I agree. I here all this people saying, that Clottey deserve this and that. But he only waits for the big opportunity to happend. He dont fight the Collazos,Quintanas,Cintrons of the division. And he wants people to respect him. **** that, he needs to fight more, and more decent comp.

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