Calzaghe beats Jones at any age.

[Vasyl’s dad]

Can ANYONE in America agree that, at 36, Calzaghe is past his best too?

No, i thought not - trust me, Calzaghe hit harder, much harder 6 /7 years ago and was also faster. No, lets pretend Joe is a 25 yr old its easier to argue in favour of everyone else?

I'm american and have been trying to tell these dolts for damn near ever that the guys who beat Roy Jones weren't in their primes either.

All I get in response is,

"bu, bu, but"

Jones, Tarver and Johnson were all born within a few months of eachother.


But to a Roy Jones fan, only Jones can lose his speed and reflexes as he ages.

Everyone else stays in prime form.

[Vasyl’s dad]

if joe is so great than why didnt he move up in weight 7-8 years ago when RJJ was in his prime? why did he wait till RJJ was 2 months away from 40 to fight him? Cause he knew a prime Roy would hav whooped his a$$. So instead he stayed in his home country fighting bums and journeymen in a weak division for over a decade. In the UK Calzaghe maybe an ATG but outside the UK he aint ****. He will never be considered an ATG outside of the UK. End of.

When did Roy or any other american fighter call out Joe?

[roundingace]

This is ******. Prime Roy Jones dominates Joe to a late KO. Any other thought process is dillusional. (Minus a shutout UD.)

[Vasyl’s dad]

This is ******. Prime Roy Jones dominates Joe to a late KO. Any other thought process is dillusional. (Minus a shutout UD.)

Are these factual examples delusional too?


Douglas >>>Tyson when he was peak.

Mayorga >>> Forrest when he was peak.

Honeyghan>>>Curry when he was peak.

McCall >>>Lewis when he was peak.

Darchinyan >>>Mijares when he was peak.

[TheGreatA]

Glen Johnson and Antonio Tarver were at their best against Roy Jones despite their age.

RJJ started as a pro in 1989
Johnson in 1993
Tarver in 1997

Johnson never had a greater year than 2004 (wins over Jones, Tarver and Woods), Tarver's best years were 2002-2005 (wins over Roy Jones, Harding, Griffin, R. Johnson, G. Johnson).

Roy Jones was at his absolute best in 1994-1998 in my opinion.

[roundingace]

Are these factual examples delusional too?


Douglas >>>Tyson when he was peak.

Mayorga >>> Forrest when he was peak.

Honeyghan>>>Curry when he was peak.

McCall >>>Lewis when he was peak.

Darchinyan >>>Mijares when he was peak.

Oh, you mean miracles. Ok, gotcha. Yeah, Joe would of needed one vs a prime RJJ.

[Vasyl’s dad]

Oh, you mean miracles. Ok, gotcha. Yeah, Joe would of needed one vs a prime RJJ.

You can call them miracles,

people that live in the real world call them results.

Fact of the matter is, any man can beat any other man on any given night.

Boxing logic doesn't always work the way you expect it.

Thats why fights are fought in the ring and not on paper the way you'd like.

[roundingace]

You can call them miracles,

people that live in the real world call them results.

Fact of the matter is, any man can beat any other man on any given night.

Boxing logic doesn't always work the way you expect it.

Thats why fights are fought in the ring and not on paper the way you'd like.

I'm just giving you my opinion that RJJ would destroy Joe Calzaghe in his prime. You don't have to continue to argue it with me in hopes I will suddenly switch to your dillusional thinking. You have your opinion, let me have mine sir.

P.S. I live in the real world, hence my stance on the obvious.

[Vasyl’s dad]

I'm just giving you my opinion that RJJ would destroy Joe Calzaghe in his prime. You don't have to continue to argue it with me in hopes I will suddenly switch to your dillusional thinking. You have your opinion, let me have mine sir.

P.S. I live in the real world, hence my stance on the obvious.

I'm not trying to change your mind.

Only showing you that boxing logic is never perfect.


You call it delusional, the real world calls it, fact.

Unless you're going to say these fights didn't happen.

Douglas >>>Tyson when he was peak.

Mayorga >>> Forrest when he was peak.

Honeyghan>>>Curry when he was peak.

McCall >>>Lewis when he was peak.

Darchinyan >>>Mijares when he was peak.

[roundingace]

I'm not trying to change your mind.

Only showing you that boxing logic is never perfect.


You call it delusional, the real world calls it, fact.

Unless you're going to say these fights didn't happen.

Douglas >>>Tyson when he was peak.

Mayorga >>> Forrest when he was peak.

Honeyghan>>>Curry when he was peak.

McCall >>>Lewis when he was peak.

Darchinyan >>>Mijares when he was peak.

Right and I'm showing you, using boxing logic and "on paper" facts, that most of those you mention are "miracles." Any man, as you said, can lose on any given night, obviously. My stance, based off of said logic and on paper facts, is that RJJ destroys him.