Would Joe Calzaghe be able to go threw RJJ's resume undefeated?

[bsrizpac]

Yeah, winning a decision against a world class opponent after breaking his hand in the 3rd round doesn't "inspire confidence". ****s sake.

He'd have beat the version of Toney that RJJ fought. No question. I'd actually pick a prime Toney to beat him but that was in no way, shape or form a prime Toney.

As for Ruiz, jesus christ. It's a pointless discussion.

Hopkins is an interesting one. A past-prime Calzaghe outworked a past-prime Hopkins. Any increased workrate from Hopkins would be negated by the vastly increased ability to actually punch Calzaghe would have had if they had met in 2002. Still close,but still a definite edge to Calzaghe IMO.

Once AGAIN: Calzaghe has Done NOTHING above SM at LHW other than look like ****. How would he beat a heavyweight? Good God the fanboy **** gets old.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

The levels of hyperbole Joe's fans will sink to to make him seem more awesome is staggeringly ridiculous. Give me a break.

Coming from the guy who just said Hopkins was "100 years old" and that Jones was a "corpse".

And your reasoning for Joe having no chance against Ruiz was that he looked bad against Hopkins.

Ruiz and Hopkins being almost identical in style of course.

[bsrizpac]

Coming from the guy who just said Hopkins was "100 years old" and that Jones was a "corpse".

And your reasoning for Joe having no chance against Ruiz was that he looked bad against Hopkins.

Ruiz and Hopkins being almost identical in style of course.

Coming from a guy that Voted Ruiz would lose by KO to Calzaghe yeah I'd say everything you say is full of ****.

* Waits for the lame ass -I was "taking the piss" bull**** that you'll spew.

Joe has no chance against Ruiz unless he at LEAST proves that he can be dominant at LHW. Even then that is not proof but at least it's more of a possibility.

But if you'd ever boxed or been around a real fighter in your life- you'd know that. Now go back to scoring "internet victories" you winner you.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Coming from a guy that Voted Ruiz would lose by KO to Calzaghe yeah I'd say everything you say is full of ****.

* Waits for the lame ass -I was "taking the piss" bull**** that you'll spew.

Joe has no chance against Ruiz unless he at LEAST proves that he can be dominant at LHW. Even then that is not proof but at least it's more of a possibility.

But if you'd ever boxed or been around a real fighter in your life- you'd know that. Now go back to scoring "internet victories" you winner you.

I actually said Wlad would lose by KO. And so did about 20 people. If you actually took that seriously, I think you may have a mental disorder.

Proving yourself to be dominant at LHW does not mean you'll be successful 30lbs above.

We're talking about one fighter - John Ruiz - he got beat by two former middleweights already. Hes absolutely ****e. One of the worst HW Champs in history. Joe could come in at 201lbs, slap flurry in and out and Ruiz wouldnt touch him.

[bsrizpac]

I actually said Wlad would lose by KO. And so did about 20 people. If you actually took that seriously, I think you may have a mental disorder.

Proving yourself to be dominant at LHW does not mean you'll be successful 30lbs above.

We're talking about one fighter - John Ruiz - he got beat by two former middleweights already. Hes absolutely ****e. One of the worst HW Champs in history. Joe could come in at 201lbs, slap flurry in and out and Ruiz wouldnt touch him.

Like clockwork. Wow. See Dirk, when you are a known ******, it's not a good idea to say ******ed things: even in jest. Your body of work indicates that you are extremely dull and slow witted.

Also thanks for repeating what I said about LHW. If Calz didn't look like pathetic crap at that weight I MIGHT humor him at heavy.

Ruiz beat an ATG Heavy fighter. He beat Holy convincingly. Your boyfriend had to wait till they all become old to man up and come across that pond to fight them.

Also dummy: when using Tony as an example try and remember that he's beaten other heavies and campaigned successfully at CRUISER before he jumped to heavy (something Calz would never have the balls to do).

So go ahead and respond with your usual smileys and LOLS and emoticons at your own lame ass jokes. Say that I'm stalking you and blah blah blah Calz rules Yanks sucks is all anyone with a brain will read.

You should try visiting America you might actually like it.

Oh wait- you should try boxing, you might actually begin to understand it.

Back to jerking off to the union jack for you!

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Also thanks for repeating what I said about LHW. If Calz didn't look like pathetic crap at that weight I MIGHT humor him at heavy.

Ruiz beat an ATG Heavy fighter. He beat Holy convincingly. Your boyfriend had to wait till they all become old to man up and come across that pond to fight them.

I love how when someone like Dawson or Ruiz beats an old washed up formerly great fighter, you give them credit beyonf all belief. But Calzaghe beats Hopkins or Jones and you call them "corpses".

More hypocrisy.

And nice how you continually ignore Hopkins ducking of Joe 6 years ago but carry on slapping yourself in the face with hypocrisy.

[bsrizpac]

I love how when someone like Dawson or Ruiz beats an old washed up formerly great fighter, you give them credit beyonf all belief. But Calzaghe beats Hopkins or Jones and you call them "corpses".

More hypocrisy.

And nice how you continually ignore Hopkins ducking of Joe 6 years ago but carry on slapping yourself in the face with hypocrisy.

how does Calzaghe's penis taste? You must love it the keep swinging off his nuts 24 hours a day. Seriously man, keep your gay man love out of this.

Try to discuss boxing objectively. Calzaghe does not beat Ruiz.

If you'd been in a ring and EVER fought you'd understand this. The end.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

how does Calzaghe's penis taste? You must love it the keep swinging off his nuts 24 hours a day. Seriously man, keep your gay man love out of this.

Try to discuss boxing objectively. Calzaghe does not beat Ruiz.

If you'd been in a ring and EVER fought you'd understand this. The end.

You talk about discussing boxing objectively then when someone doesnt agree with you - you stalk them for months and say they no nothing about boxing.

Calzaghe trounces Ruiz by a wide decision.

Still ignoring "your hero" ducking Joe? Funny as ****.

[number6]

I voted No. I think Joe would lose to Ruiz and Tarver.

A prime Toney would have beat him, but Jones Jr didnt beat a prime Toney due to the issue of him being weight drained (i think Roy would have beat him anyway tho). Joe would have a very good shot against the Toney that turned up to fight Jones that night.

[K-DOGG]

An interesting thought occurred to me about this fight....concerning the "legacy" of both.

Jones, while held in high esteem among many, is still detracted by others for his refusal...or inabilty to face certain fighters in the ring due to his or their inclinations, thus leaving his "legacy" in doubt in some ways.

Here's what I mean. He never fought Michael Nunn, Nigel Benn, Gerald McClellan, Chris Eubank, Joe Calzaghe,or rematched with Bernard Hopkins after X's victory over Trinidad..which would have made a bundle of money. Now WHO was responsible for any of these "matches that never were", at this point, is a MOOT POINT. Time has passed. They didn't happen. Let the fan or critic draw their own conclusions as to why.

Calzaghe, on the other hand, has been disresptected in America for years primarily because of two things...well, three. 1. Lack of general respect in the "colonies" for the WBOgus belt which he wore. 2. Lack of respect for the competion he fought....ironic, considering American-Jones own resume for the most part...with a few obvious exceptions. and 3. his "non-Americaness". Argue all you want, fellow yanks...you know it's true.

Now, here they are, Calzghe riding a title wave of praise following his success over the last few years and he's about the face a Jones who is obviously past his best.


What if Jones wins? And wins impressively?


If this happens, not only will Jones soiled reputation after the Tarver-Johnson destructions be put under the microscope again...for the better; but the exact opposite for Calzaghe will take place.

Though I think Joltin' Joe should win at this stage...it is a very risky proposition, "historically speaking".....in my opinion, anyway.