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    Originally posted by KrisSilver View Post
    A Hopkins post 40, with more stamina and punch output would quite likely beat Calzaghe for the opposite reasons. He's a complete style nitemare for Joes style, doesn't come forwards, very good defensively, a good counter puncher. But these skills he relied on and honed most post 40. He didn't have them to that extent when he was younger as he didn't quite have the same experience, ring intelligence or defence. at least to such ridiculously high extents. So go back in time and if anything Joe has a slightly easier time with Hops imo, because he's slightly more open and less awkward which were his best weapons.
    I'm glad one of the big Calzaghe fans agrees with me

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      Originally posted by abadger View Post
      So that would be every single active elite boxer at or around his weight class who calzaghe has not already fought and beat? Hmm. I bet if he hadn't fought Hopins, Lacy and Kessler they'd be on too.

      Of those, Dawson has the best chance, because he's young, fast, skilled and quick, but if he can struggle with Johnson, Calzaghe would give him kittens, he'd apply similar pressure only much faster and more skilfully. If tarver showed up to fight he might make it a good one too, his cagey style is not Calzaghe's favourite and he's much bigger than Joe, but in all likelihood would get outworked.

      The rest of the names on there get beaten easily by Joe C.
      None of the boxers I named get handled easily by Calzaghe it would be battle. Johnson punches a lot harder then Calzaghe, has better chin and is a stalker in the ring. He was able to stun Dawson which I dont see Calz doing. I Agree I give Dawson the best chance, Abraham the least. Which u think has least chance?

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        Originally posted by Precision View Post
        Great defense, good lateral movement, good workrate, accurate counter punching. Basically a prime Hopkins.
        Hopkins never had that high a workrate IMO !

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          Originally posted by egreezy View Post
          None of the boxers I named get handled easily by Calzaghe it would be battle. Johnson punches a lot harder then Calzaghe, has better chin and is a stalker in the ring. He was able to stun Dawson which I dont see Calz doing. I Agree I give Dawson the best chance, Abraham the least. Which u think has least chance?
          It's debatable if Johnson has a better chin, I mean sure Joes been down but only from majorly hard shots or being caught off balance, all of which he's been up in seconds un phased carrying on in style. He also stalks probably as much as Johnson.

          Originally posted by egreezy View Post
          I think there are active boxers now that can beat Joe.
          Pavlik, Dawson, Abraham, Wright, Taylor, and Jones. Possibly Tarver.
          Can beat him, ok yes have a good shot like most boxing matches, but unlikely to beat him overall. Is that what your saying, or do you favour all of those against Joe? For starters, Pavlik, Wright, Taylor and Tarver would not be favoured against Calzaghe by the majority, certainly not now. Perhaps a number of years ago most wouldn't favour Joe. His abilities not to blame there, only awareness of it.
          Last edited by Kris Silver; 08-26-2008, 04:38 PM.

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            Originally posted by abadger View Post
            What style of boxer do you think has the best shot at beating Joe Calzaghe? His workrate, maybe the highest ever for a SMW/ LHW, and his aggression mean he's very difficult to outpoint and his tough chin means stopping him is unlikely. How would you do it?
            bro coudl u swing any harder from joes nuts, jesus christ.

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              This may be an overly simplistic concept but does anyone think there might be a chance of a fighter with decent pop, good handspeed, and the ability to cut off the ring to just jump calzaghe and bash him up? Like I said it sounds pretty ****** and calzaghe is too good of an in fighter to fall prey to that but it could possibly work...some people have won fights by largely ignoring the technical side of boxing and just slugging...not giving his opponent any space or time at all....or do you think his opponent would probably just get the **** slapped out of them?

              One of the major flaws with this idea is I don't have any ideas as to who could pull this off. It would probably work out kind of like the lacy fight. I suspect calzaghe is too good of a fighter to be drawn into something like that. Oh well. Just a thought. I'm not trying to pretend I know a ****load about boxing or anything.

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                Throw him in with a prime Hopkins, Toney or Roy and he gets obliterated

                Nowadays? There's nobody young enough and good enough around his weight class to beat him. If he loses to Roy or Dawson or Tarver, I think you have to say Calzaghe's career was pretty much a big joke and admit that he was overprotected the entire time.

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                • Originally posted by garryd View Post
                  Hopkins never had that high a workrate IMO !
                  watch his fight with glen johnson, his workrate was good.

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                    I winky would make it look easy!!!!!!!

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                      Originally posted by KrisSilver View Post
                      It's debatable if Johnson has a better chin, I mean sure Joes been down but only from majorly hard shots or being caught off balance, all of which he's been up in seconds un phased carrying on in style. He also stalks probably as much as Johnson.



                      Can beat him, ok yes have a good shot like most boxing matches, but unlikely to beat him overall. Is that what your saying, or do you favour all of those against Joe? For starters, Pavlik, Wright, Taylor and Tarver would not be favoured against Calzaghe by the majority, certainly not now. Perhaps a number of years ago most wouldn't favour Joe. His abilities not to blame there, only awareness of it.
                      only between you and the rest of the world.

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