Trinidad Backs Off De La Hoya Bout, Cotto Speaks

[The Narcissist]

I don't even know why the possibility of the fight was made public. At no point in time was Trinidad every genuinely considering coming back. They just took it as a moment to seem relevant again. That's all really.

[Jknows]

listen I think u guys believe as if tito is askin for a fight or something the only reason u guys is believing that is cause the media keeps actin like if tito is so concerned with DLH they the ones that be stiring **** up..it'll be Cotto vs. DLH not DLH and tito..stop sayin **** tito leave my homey alone he chillin its everyone around him makin commotions for no reason...he gonna retire..

[Xol]

Are we seriously debating this? The way Tito has been boxing lately, if you can even call that boxing, and the way Oscar has been fighting lately are in two different spectrums. Oscar comes to fight. Tito as of late has not. If they met in a rematch, Oscar would win a completely lopsided UD or put Tito to sleep in the later rounds. It wouldn't even be competetive.

Knowing this and how bad Oscar beat Tito the last time they fought, no one really wants to see them fight now. I did. A rematch right after the original fight would have been logical, but now... nah. And yes, Oscar beat Trinidad. Not in the sense of a statistical loss or win, but the overwhelming general consensus is that if Oscar wouldn't have listened to his corner and ran, he would have won. He was putting on a boxing clinic, just like he would do in a rematch.

The money fight is ODH vs Cotto. That's the fight we want to see and hopefully if Cotto gets past Margarito ( which I personally think he will ), it will happen. And then if the boxing God's smile upon us, we'll get Mayweather vs Cotto.

[WESS]

listen I think u guys believe as if tito is askin for a fight or something the only reason u guys is believing that is cause the media keeps actin like if tito is so concerned with DLH they the ones that be stiring **** up..it'll be Cotto vs. DLH not DLH and tito..stop sayin **** tito leave my homey alone he chillin its everyone around him makin commotions for no reason...he gonna retire..

hopefully its Mayweather VS Cotto Winner takes the winner of Del La Hoya VS PAC! That would be the fight right there... lol...

[fightingfigs]

Mayorga should fight DLh again

[VIVA MEXICO!!]

Bring on DLH v. Cotto so that it can pave the way to Mayweather v. Cotto!

margarito is going to change those plans with one right hand to cottos jaw.

[edgarg]

No, your 100% wrong. You are bringing some backyard logic to this topic. In real life and in the business world, DLH is the draw, always has been. Getting a fight with DLH will promise you the most money you have ever made in your career, so why should DLH split 50/50?

It's kind of like you and I owning a company and I come up with the product, the marketing and the strategy to sell it and you want me to split the profits 50/50?? No ****ing way.

Maybe Oscar is the draw, but remember that Trinidad was an unbeaten welterqweight Champ with about 125 defences, before he smashed his way through the light middles. If he's gone back home after 9/11 to be calm and just train, he might have beaten hopkins. But he stayed, hardly trained for 2 weeks and wwas helping in the rescue efforts. Good for him (although we all seem to forget it) but bad for his training.

As for the 50/50...the name of the game is MONEY, and better 50% of a huge pie than 60 or 75% of nothing................. Oscar had many opportunities to rematch Yrinidad, and Trinidad offered him a rematch right after their fight, but oscar refused it. He only became REALLY keen when it was crystal clear that Trinidad had definitely retired, making big PR with his special trip to Puerto Rico to have lunch with Trinidad and coax him into a fight. How come nobody remembers these FACTS.

[edgarg]

Sorry,misprint, Trinidad had about 15 welter defences. And smashed every opponent to pieces.

[WESS]

Maybe Oscar is the draw, but remember that Trinidad was an unbeaten welterqweight Champ with about 125 defences, before he smashed his way through the light middles. If he's gone back home after 9/11 to be calm and just train, he might have beaten hopkins. But he stayed, hardly trained for 2 weeks and wwas helping in the rescue efforts. Good for him (although we all seem to forget it) but bad for his training.

As for the 50/50...the name of the game is MONEY, and better 50% of a huge pie than 60 or 75% of nothing................. Oscar had many opportunities to rematch Yrinidad, and Trinidad offered him a rematch right after their fight, but oscar refused it. He only became REALLY keen when it was crystal clear that Trinidad had definitely retired, making big PR with his special trip to Puerto Rico to have lunch with Trinidad and coax him into a fight. How come nobody remembers these FACTS.

Man as much as I respect Tito. He's done. You can just look at him and see he doesn't want to fight anymore. He loves the sport but doesn't have the passion anymore. I don't know what he was thinking in the Jones fight. But I don't see him coming back for anything. Well unless someone offers him a hell of a lot of money...

[edgarg]

Are we seriously debating this? The way Tito has been boxing lately, if you can even call that boxing, and the way Oscar has been fighting lately are in two different spectrums. Oscar comes to fight. Tito as of late has not. If they met in a rematch, Oscar would win a completely lopsided UD or put Tito to sleep in the later rounds. It wouldn't even be competetive.

Knowing this and how bad Oscar beat Tito the last time they fought, no one really wants to see them fight now. I did. A rematch right after the original fight would have been logical, but now... nah. And yes, Oscar beat Trinidad. Not in the sense of a statistical loss or win, but the overwhelming general consensus is that if Oscar wouldn't have listened to his corner and ran, he would have won. He was putting on a boxing clinic, just like he would do in a rematch.

The money fight is ODH vs Cotto. That's the fight we want to see and hopefully if Cotto gets past Margarito ( which I personally think he will ), it will happen. And then if the boxing God's smile upon us, we'll get Mayweather vs Cotto.

That's a load of PR after the fact crap about Oscar "listening to his corner" and running. Oscar was DONE. He'd taken a huge body punch in the middle of the 5th and from then on got progressively more on his bicycle, until for the last 5 rounds he all but turned his back to run away. Pure survival.

As for Trinidad not coming to fight, I can't imagine anyone not serious, getting into the ring for with, of all people Roy Jones, the top lb4lb star since Sugar Ray Robinson, and for you to say so, shows how little you know about boxing. How would Oscar have done against Jones, I wonder?? Of course that's a silly question, and I shouldn't have asked it, but it was rhetorical.