FLoyD FaNs vs. CoTTo FaNs vs. FLoyD HaTers: LET'S CLEAR THE AIR !!!!!!

[Horus]

Where is my 10k Horus? I proved you wrong 5 different times in that other thread.

Give me my points.

1. "A fight with Miguel Cotto, which would be the preference of Arum, would have paid Margarito about $1.8 million and a fight with Williams would pay him a shade less than that."



1A. Margarito passed on the Cotto bout and decided to take a fight with Williams due to the bigger payday and the WBO had threatened to strip him of his crown if he bypassed his mandatory, Williams.

//krikya360.com/?m=show&id=9008

2. You didnt even Address the Question..
The Question is
What fight in England is Bigger than Hatton-Witter..??

3.Mikkel Kessler and Chris Eubank are a lot better then Jeff Lacy.

Mikkel Kessler was better than Jeff Lacy That's why I said Until Recently

Chris Eubank was not Better than Jeff Lacy and his highest Ranking Was in 1993-94 when he was ranked #3 in his division

Eubank Fought Calzaghe in 1997 when he was 37 years old and and past His Prime. and Calzaghe didnt even have a belt..
and they fought for the Vacant WBO title..


But Jeff Lacy was Undefeated and in his prime at the time he fought Calzaghe
in a Fight when both of them put up thier belts.

So Jeff Lacy was a better win because(Calzaghe) he defeated a Prime Fighter from America (which is a big deal in Europe and Calzaghe always say's "I beat the best America had to offer.."), and he was young and a champion.

And remember Lacy was 21-0 with 16 KO's


So lacy was his biggest win until Recently..

when he fouGHT Kessler that became his biggest win..




4.Come on, "Can floyd be more famous then ali?!" You can support it with all the "facts" you want. You are still wrong because of what Ali did to change the world.


Obivously you didnt read the thread because I said right from the start that floyd would never be bigger than Ali.



Dude you cant be Serious, you have done nothing but state your opinion which is fine, because dont act they are Facts

You prove Nothing

[warp1432]

1. I never said that the WBO didn't have completely all of it, but I still proved you wrong in the first place. You said "Give me statements where I was wrong where I didn't use facts" You took time to research this again or else you would have included it the first time. Even then a blog isn't always a trustworthy source. Where did they get the fact that Margarito was going to get 1.8 million? Margarito says in the ESPN article that he was getting his highest payday from Williams.

2. Mayweather Hatton 2 could potentially be bigger if in england.

3. 37? He's 41 years old! I didn't know it was 2001. And a win over Nigel Benn is a lot meaningful then Jeff Lacy's biggest win.



Since you seem uneducated about euro fighters here's a wikipedia article so you don't have to go look him up yourself.

4.
Fine then. Here's another one of your completely absurd statements:

Pacquaio Is ****in Up These Mexican Fighters

**** I don't know what's wrong with this....hmm let's have you tell me!

Mayweather knocked Hatton out. There's clearly a gap inbtween 1 and 2.

Mayweather Wins by KO
Pacquiao Wins by 1 point

Come one People just Use your Brains...

So much for ****ing up those mexicans.

5. Oh wait you didn't reply to #5...

[Horus]

1. I never said that the WBO didn't have completely all of it, but I still proved you wrong in the first place. You said "Give me statements where I was wrong where I didn't use facts" You took time to research this again or else you would have included it the first time. Even then a blog isn't always a trustworthy source. Where did they get the fact that Margarito was going to get 1.8 million? Margarito says in the ESPN article that he was getting his highest payday from Williams.

2. Mayweather Hatton 2 could potentially be bigger if in england.

3. 37? He's 41 years old! I didn't know it was 2001. And a win over Nigel Benn is a lot meaningful then Jeff Lacy's biggest win.



Since you seem uneducated about euro fighters here's a wikipedia article so you don't have to go look him up yourself.

4.
Fine then. Here's another one of your completely absurd statements:




**** I don't know what's wrong with this....hmm let's have you tell me!



So much for ****ing up those mexicans.

5. Oh wait you didn't reply to #5...

You took time to research this again or else you would have included it the first time.

I replied within 5 Minutes...
look at the time Stamp..

what are talking about...?

Dude Most of this stuff i am writing off the top of my head....
and you still havent proved anything....

Truth of the matter is, is that you always been a hater of mines from day 1, and that is cool becuz without haterz I wouldnt be Horus...

[warp1432]

Your span is 5 minutes? Why didn't you reply when you made a post earlier at noon in this thread and not the original Wlad/vitali thread when I had to remind you. Not to mention that this whole object is to prove you wrong when you didn't use fact.

Originally if you would have done that, you would have included that thing and not have me point it out to you to find another "source". That blog is suspect anyway. How did the author get that information.. He said that Margarito would get 1.8 from the Cotto fight, but Arum never had stated this.

And you still got #3 wrong even if Lacy is a better win then Eubank. Your original post:

Calzaghe Cant Lose this fight and Have his resume taken Seriously from now on, because it would be obvious that he wasnt fighting Elite Fighters...

This is so so so so wrong.

I've proved 1-5 wrong except #4 which I replaced with something new which I can do because you said to prove 5 times you were wrong. And you said to find things where you were wrong, and so I did.

So pay me my 10k and we are all good.

[Horus]

Your span is 5 minutes? Why didn't you reply when you made a post earlier at noon in this thread and not the original Wlad/vitali thread when I had to remind you. Not to mention that this whole object is to prove you wrong when you didn't use fact.

Originally if you would have done that, you would have included that thing and not have me point it out to you to find another "source". That blog is suspect anyway. How did the author get that information.. He said that Margarito would get 1.8 from the Cotto fight, but Arum never had stated this.

And you still got #3 wrong even if Lacy is a better win then Eubank. Your original post:



This is so so so so wrong.

I've proved 1-5 wrong except #4 which I replaced with something new which I can do because you said to prove 5 times you were wrong. And you said to find things where you were wrong, and so I did.

So pay me my 10k and we are all good.

my statement:

"Since i get stuff wrong all the time, Please give me at least 5 times When i said something not supported with facts..."



1. I didnt know you even Replied until i saw your post when i got home..
and when i saw your post i ask

"Where did you proved me Wrong..??

I dont even think you Replied...

Give the link.."

and then i search your post history and found it and reply in this thread because you was in here



2. The point was the fact that the WBO was going to strip Margarito was the main reason or one of the reasons he fought williams

Because Marg loved that Belt because that was his claim to fame







Your Orginal Post:


1.

Quote:
Bob Arum only made Margo fight Paul Williams when the WBO made a threat to take away his title for not fighting his mandatory.


YOU argeed... with this

2.

Quote:
hatton Needs To Fight Witter Before Even Coming Back To The States...!!! Period


What Fight in England would be better than Hatton vs. Witter...??
These are the 2 biggest names in England boxing
This is the fight Has been building for years





3.


Quote:
Calzaghe Cant Lose this fight and Have his resume taken Seriously from now on, because it would be obvious that he wasnt fighting Elite Fighters...

That's my opinion, I didnt say taken serious by ALL BOXING FANS.
I wrote that From my point of View...

and that is a FACT, If he loses to a 43 year Hopkins I will not take him seriouly as a great fighter in my eyes.

4.
//krikya360.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=171894

This whole topic lol

YOUR ARGUE AGAINST SOMETHING I DIDNT EVEN ARGUE FOR...

5.

Quote:
Calzaghe is A PROTECTED FIGHTER.....



Once again that is my Opinion....and most people would agree with my opinion...

For the sake of arguing What are usally the standards for labeling somebody a protected fighter...???

1. Resume full of Who is that Fighters
2. Hardly Ever Leaves his Hown Town
3. Turn down fights with Fighters who would skill out seeds there own(Jones,Hopkins,Toney,etc)

The list goes on...

But you get the point....



Where in your original 5 did you proved me wrong..??



Like i said U always been on my ****, and you proved nothing

[Lazy Liberal]

Cotto doesn't need any other belts to Fight Floyd. He is a known fighter, it is a fallacy that he is an unknowned fighter. The argument of Cotto needing 2 more belts in order to bring attention or create a buzz is sbsurd.

A lot of talk about PPv numbers, and who does what and so forth. Floyd is making Ppv numbers because of the guys he fights. Floyd fought Gatti , who was a mainstream figure, known by Joe Blow from Idaho. Floyd batters gatti and creates a buzz which translates to interest in his other PPvs. My point , Floyd needed Gatti in order to make a name for himself.

Cotto turns pro in 2001. He makes his PPv debut in 2006. That's 5 yrs.
Floyd turns pro in 96. He makes his PPv debut in 2005. That's 9 yrs.

Floyd has the numbers over Cotto not only because he has fought gatti and Oscar but because he has more yrs in the boxing game. Cotto has already built his base, now he will expand and attract others who will want to see him. For a guy who is an unkwon fighter and brings nothing to the table, 400,00+ ppvs is pretty good.

BUMP..................................

[warp1432]

"Since i get stuff wrong all the time, Please give me at least 5 times When i said something not supported with facts..."


1. You said "Bob arum only...with more post here" That wasn't it and you didn't use the fact that Margarito was getting his career high pay day. You were wrong there.

2. Hatton and Mayweather 2 at Wembley would be a far bigger fight in England then Hatton and Witter would. Wembley holds what 90,000? That'd sell out in like 2 hours.

3. "Calzaghe can't lose....etc" This was wrong and you didn't even use facts to support it.

4. I changed this to the Pacquiao running through mexicans thing which was wrong because Pacquiaio only lost to Marquez by a point.

5. Calzaghe isn't a protected fighter. Just because you don't recognize names doesn't mean that they were bad. That means you're just a dumbass.

Or as you would say it "You is a dumbass and a haterz of mine!! Get off my **** yo!!1"


And if I wanted to be real nit picky about this I could have just brought up 5 random posts that had nothing to do with Boxing because none of them had facts in them and I could have gained my 10k. Insted I just chose to prove you wrong with 5 different subjects.

I have proved you wrong (except on the Ali Mayweather thing, you got me there, but I was a little confused in that scramble of text).

[bigneli]

Hey man. Sorry that you are getting hit from every angle in this thread. I'm answering to the first part of your post.
Both me and you know, that there is not many people out there that can beat Mayweather, but we also know that at WW the guy to beat is Cotto. Now I completely agree with you in that, PBF doesn't have to prove anything in boxing to anyone. But at WW, Cotto is the guy, Mayweather's career numbers or Hall of Fame numbers were at lower weight classes. Nonetheless, he doesn't have to prove a thing to anyone.
Now if it's all about money, why doesn't he fight Cotto in Puerto Rico. Cotto is a hero there and the venue should produce great numbers and big money for Money.
I don't think it's a smart pick for Mayweather to fight Cotto, anywhere. Cotto can definitely beat Mayweather in my opinion, but we will never know.
I don't agree w/ u in Cotto's stock going down by beating Mosley at his own game. Cotto's speed and jab really impressed me on that fight.
Anyway, take care.

[Lazy Liberal]

Hey man. Sorry that you are getting hit from every angle in this thread. I'm answering to the first part of your post.
Both me and you know, that there is not many people out there that can beat Mayweather, but we also know that at WW the guy to beat is Cotto. Now I completely agree with you in that, PBF doesn't have to prove anything in boxing to anyone. But at WW, Cotto is the guy, Mayweather's career numbers or Hall of Fame numbers were at lower weight classes. Nonetheless, he doesn't have to prove a thing to anyone.
Now if it's all about money, why doesn't he fight Cotto in Puerto Rico. Cotto is a hero there and the venue should produce great numbers and big money for Money.
I don't think it's a smart pick for Mayweather to fight Cotto, anywhere. Cotto can definitely beat Mayweather in my opinion, but we will never know.
I don't agree w/ u in Cotto's stock going down by beating Mosley at his own game. Cotto's speed and jab really impressed me on that fight.
Anyway, take care.

He won't respond to you cause you make sense and have points.

[AntonTheMeh]