Are some races naturally better boxers?

[sonofisis]

^^Spot on.. There's no need to supress the differences that indeed do exist, but speaking in terms of superior or inferior is futile given the endless combination of traits mentioned, many of which hold equal weight, which is why it can't be stressed enough that strategy is the most important thing one can have as a benefit.

[Benny Leonard]

I get you and also agree that these threads are ******..



Yes, I'd like to access this study since what you report is impossible. Humans are 99.8-9% the same, genetically speaking and Chimpanzees share approx. 98% of our DNA, so 95% between the so-called races is impossible.Matter of fact, out of that .2 % of differences between populations, 85% of that even is completely dependent on the individual, hence, "race" doesn't exist, it is only a social concept identified through superficial physical attributes.




What helps them is generally and predominantly 2 things outside of dedication and practice.

1. Elongated, tropical body plans that are adapted to alleviate heat and make longer strides. This is necessary in the tropics and the savanah where early humans survived by staying alert, using their brain, and being able to run from predators while sustaining their endurance..

2. Lung capacity. Given that the vast majority of eastern Africa is situated in more mountainous regions, people who've resided there for a long time have physically adapted to breathing thin air, hence they have more lung capacity than those used to breathing in air at sea level.





Kayjay addressed this, but I will add that such artificial selection has to be entirely more controlled and sustained in order to be effective. At the end of the day, you won't be able to isolate any gene responsible for boxing skills or even inherent strength as you can track such traits like eye/fur color and stature in dogs.

I don't remember exactly what the report was saying and would have to find it by making sure it was still on my AOL account, which was hacked so it's down. Hopefully I can load it back up and have it working in a few days when I come back from my vacation from the clouds.

Anyway, Thank You for the short education lesson. I’m all for further knowledge.

For boxing, sure, in the end, you have to know what you are doing, but having great genes helps. Jack Johnson was a better boxer after Joe Choynski got a hold of him, so the story goes, but one of the things Joe discussed with Jack was about his natural ability of speed/athleticism being an advantage. We all saw what happened to Tyson when he wasn't trained properly as well, but his genes did help him become a top level fighter and continued to help him even after he left the proper boxing training behind.
Speed, Strength, frame of the body, taking a shot like he and others are able to do...genetic. You do train to make them peak, but you can have someone train all they want, doesn't mean you are going to take a shot like he did, be as fast as him, as strong, etc.


I'm sure Jordan worked hard, but I bet his genes helped as well...and that isn't about race/group/ethnicity or whatever you want to place it, but specifically what his Pops and Mother passed along to him.
Jim Thorpe, Mantle, Ronaldo, etc. Hard workers, but good genes, I would think helped.



To start, You need to be hungry

[ferocity]

ferocity in the Americas often boxing flourishes among the poor, but that's not the case everywhere. Calzaghe was not poor. The Klitschkos were not poor either. Mayweather did not exactly grow up impoverished. And there you have some of today's dominant boxers.

Barrera wasn't poor either, you're right. Imo, what they did have was great support and a love for the sport.

[Banderivets]

Benny Leonard sure genes help, but its not like every man of African descent can jump like MJ and box like Tyson. Nor can every Pole lift a fridge over his head like Mariusz Pudzianowski.

Those genes were just gifts from God to those individuals, not to entire populations.

And nor can every Ukrainian do this lol

[onetwopunch]

Race has nothing to do with it. It how much effort and discipline you put into the sport. Usually ********** are better becuase they are lower in the financial scale..that makes them hungrier. But race has absolutely nothing to do with it.

[Technical_Skill]

Hold on a min Junior Darwinsts, you can talk about genetics all day long, but genetics dont always win sport, sport is as much mental too, i dont always mean mental in terms of attitude, but also in terms of creativity. Look a Federer and Nadal, nadal is the better althlete, hits the ball harder but Federer is the better player, thats down to tactics and mental attitude as well as techinique. How come Justinne Henin who is tiny little thing beat serena Williams who is far bigger and hits the ball far harder? thats down to mental attitude and technique, neither of which are decided by race.

White people can be just as good at sport, Federer, Schumacher, Marradona are all proof, but because they tend to have greater financial and academic prospects than some other ethnic **********, they tend to place less value on sport as a mean of earning money and social mobility.

[moochi]

Boxing is universal..I mean Manny Pac is from a tiny place called the philliphines.

Now its no secret tha blacks and whites excel in diffrent sports.

tiny place with 100+ million ppl.

[lyrical]

Yeah Bernard Hopkins would never lose to no white boy SMH

[The Hammer]

There's been a lot of intelligent discussion on this thread. Thanks to everyone for answering without offending anyone.

[sparked_85]

2. Lung capacity. Given that the vast majority of eastern Africa is situated in more mountainous regions, people who've resided there for a long time have physically adapted to breathing thin air, hence they have more lung capacity than those used to breathing in air at sea level.

You just can't compete with Kenyans and Ethiopians at long distance running. In 5,000 metres and 10,000 metres, when was the last time anyone other than eastern africans got a medal at the olympics.

But then again Paula Radcliffe has won the london marathon, new york marathon and the world 10,000 metres in the womens events. So there is exceptions. But you can't help but think someone like Paula Radcliffe would have to put far more work in than her Kenyan adversaries.