Pac/Floyd investigation, documented punches (disputed rounds) blow by blow

[Spoon23]

Highlighted is why Manny lost , you acknowledge it but then deny it , to what end , thats simple to define , the winner !

The video at best can count connects and give us an estimate of power , neither is the all and end all in deciding the fight , its only part of the fight from a scoring perspective , its obvious Floyd was awarded points for Ring Generalship Defense etc etc which your video totally ignores , how can you score speed reflex control in a slo motion video lol , you guys never did understand why Floyd is so hard to beat , your in denial of how good he was at what he did , win , and he used ring generalship to do it .

Floyd is such a surgeon the average fanboy hater could never see the greatness , fanboys boxing vocabulary could not unravel what Floyd does in a million years lol .

Floyd had Manny fully under control like a dog on a leash , come here Rover woof woof , thats why Manny lost the fight .

You have no argument !

"Floyd is such a surgeon the average fanboy hater could never see the greatness.."

Floyd is such a surgeon the average fanboy hater could never see how he inserted the iv...reads better! no?

I concur. IV reads better. Yes!

[Spoon23]

floyd fans are annoying

Lol you are a certified fl0mo bud. Trust me. Every time a poster says something hurtful about Floyd you come charging in with passion and hate for that person hahaha

Dude accept your kind. Embrace it. You are one of them.

Haven't you forgotten your rituals before?

Here is a reminder to help you recall.




The hard part was that

after your butt fuvk initiations in the Floyd fan club..

You became.. A..





Now that I've opened it up so you can recall how you love getting it with your kind or have you forgotten? Your a sure thing in the Mayweather fan club mansion bud. You were their goddess.

I think it went too far for you to even consider renouncing your kult. They must have done terrible things to you.. What happened? Did they go overboard? Were you abused by considerthis? Who among the fl0mos took you for granted! :bukkake:

They should pay! I'm shocked that you now have so much disdain for your kind to the extent you completely castaway from them completely.

To that I say..

Good for you!!

[SUCIO416]

Lol you are a certified fl0mo bud. Trust me. Every time a poster says something hurtful about Floyd you come charging in with passion and hate for that person hahaha

Dude accept your kind. Embrace it. You are one of them.

Haven't you forgotten your rituals before?

Here is a reminder to help you recall.




The hard part was that

after your butt fuvk initiations in the Floyd fan club..

You became.. A..





Now that I've opened it up so you can recall how you love getting it with your kind or have you forgotten? Your a sure thing in the Mayweather fan club mansion bud. You were their goddess.

I think it went too far for you to even consider renouncing your kult. They must have done terrible things to you.. What happened? Did they go overboard? Were you abused by considerthis? Who among the fl0mos took you for granted! :bukkake:

They should pay! I'm shocked that you now have so much disdain for your kind to the extent you completely castaway from them completely.

To that I say..

Good for you!!

you see folks?



this is the type of garbage that has been here for 250 pages lol

still dont understand how the spineless mods dont ban these guys

[The Big Dunn]

Lol you are a certified fl0mo bud. Trust me. Every time a poster says something hurtful about Floyd you come charging in with passion and hate for that person hahaha

Dude accept your kind. Embrace it. You are one of them.

Please don't post pics of you and Rath anymore. Thanks!

[Zaroku]

I concur. IV reads better. Yes!

Manny gives the best head on the planet, rumor has it!!!

[Zaroku]

Please don't post pics of you and Rath anymore. Thanks!

Big Dunn，

We all know spoon can't live without manny parting his Pinoy cheeks.

[The Big Dunn]

Big Dunn，

We all know spoon can't live without manny parting his Pinoy cheeks.

yeah but him and Rath should keep their private lives private.

[Zaroku]

yeah but him and Rath should keep their private lives private.

Spoon23. Vs Spoon32

32 is an alt troll. Spoon23, is the jizz guzzler, he always has PAC nectar on hand to show love and respect.

[Spoon23]

Now let's get back to some serious stuff.



Intermission time:

Sterilizer has great insights of the truth that transpired on may 2.


Originally Posted by sterilizer
Slow motion doesn't lie.

Pacquiao was so fast in both attack and defense, that probably half or more of his connected punches (WHICH DID SOUND LIKE A PUNCH BTW) were never credited by either Compubox or the American judges, being on American soil, and in Las Vegas no less.

Likewise, half or more of Floyd's punches were credited as landed, but they never ever made any sound like Manny's, and in slow motion it is clearly evident that Manny dodged most of them with excellent head or body movement, and/or caught them with his gloves.

Pacquiao proved to be faster and more accurate than Mayweather both in offense and defense, but his problem is that he is not such a good "poser" when he lands his punches, most of the time they are so awkward that the only way to appreciate and acknowledge them is with the use of slow motion and a very good angle. Conversely, most of Floyd's pot-shot punches LOOK way more aesthetic, almost like theatrically rehearsed for maximum effect, and even if they don't actually land, IDK how he does it but in real time it LOOKS like they do land, but there's no sound to them and in slo-mo you can see that he missed, sometimes even by a few inches...

I am pretty sure that a similar story went down in both of his Maidana fights. Even in regular motion, I clearly saw Maidana dodge or catch most of those supposedly "landed" punches, and frankly Mayweather looked clumsy and old at times. In the De la Hoya fight, similar story, and even in his fight vs. Marquez as well, Marquez did actually land a lot of great combinations of three or more punches on Floyd, which were never credited to him. It doesn't matter that he was punching like a weakling because he was at least two weight divisions smaller than Floyd and in his poorest shape ever, his combinations did still land and he got no credit for them. BTW Floyd did not land a single combination of punches vs. Marquez throughout the whole fight. Just one pot-shot after the other, --many of them caught or dodged as usual-- but his theatrics were great as always, to impress the very-biased American judges.

I insist, a 2nd meeting should have no advantages for Floyd, it should not be on American soil, no American judges, no American referee, no sold-out "punch stats" by Compubox. Instead, this time let the fight take place in Asia, China for example. Use several independent, non-biased stats providers that really do take the necessary time to analyze the punch stats in slow motion and in several angles AFTER the fight ends, and also use the referee, judges, gloves, commentators, drug-testing agencies, betting houses, etc. etc. that Manny chooses, not Floyd, and then, let's see what happens... Oh and I forgot, let's see a Maanny fighting with BOTH hands as well...

But that of course is just a fantasy, the American fighter with all the financial power and clout does always dictate the terms, so if a 2nd fight would be to take place in Las Vegas again, IMO only ****** people would pay to see such a fiasco again, because I don't think Manny has the capability to knock Floyd out, with all the clinching and running involved, if he hasn't been able to knock out smaller and less super-defensive opponents for the last few years

[Spoon23]

5 clean jabs will outscore one power punch

Now with Reloaded's theory of scoring. We can get a more accurate scoring. Thanks Reloaded. Let's use your theory.

ROUND 3


Compubox bogus score, scored it 15/27 punches Floyd

Compubox bogus score, scored it 5/35 Pac




Video evidence gives the round to Pac 9 To Floyd 6

Now assuming we follow RELOADED's scoring ways.

And I quote reloaded, "5 clean jabs will outscore one power punch"

Thus, in that round 5 power punch landed by Pac on Floyd's chin.

So based on Reloaded's theory in scoring.

Since 5 shots were power punches by Pac then we have to multiply that to at least equivalent to 4 jabs since 5 clean jabs outweigh a power punch.

Thus, 4jabs = 1 power punch (according to reloaded)


5 power punch x 4 (4jabs = 1 power punch) = 20 pts

Add the remaining 4 shots of Pac from the 9 pts he got = 24 pts for Pac

While Floyd,

since it's all weak jabs at that round it still stays @ 6 pts

Now if we believe Reloaded's theory in scoring the real score should now be

24 Pac to 6 pts Floyd

Now that just shows the level of caliber Pac is in compared to Floyd ( note this round was given to Floyd)


# if we also add effective aggression and ring generalship which obviously was pac's in this round, since he commanded the center of the ring and effectively backed Floyd up against the ropes over and over as he outscored Floyd, shows who's in command of the ring.

This turns into a no brainer. Cake walk for Pac. ROUND 3 PAC.

# thank you reloaded. You just made it more interesting