Is Fury a top 10 all-time great?

[billeau2]

He's an All Time Great but without no title defenses is he top 10 ? No. I think he would be the champion in other eras to but he would still need some title defense to be a top 10 ,hes the most talented 6'9 footer so maybe though ? Id say no ,he needs to defend a title at least once, its crazy I don't recall a great fighter like him not having a title defense ,is there ?

I think the Joshua fight if it is done while both are still at their best, will be very important to determine legacy. If Joshua turns out to be a great fighter as well, then both of them could help each other legacy wise. There are enough young talented guys coming up so that subsequent defenses could be in order as well.

People always jump the gun when declaring greatness, it is human nature.

[REDEEMER]

I think the Joshua fight if it is done while both are still at their best, will be very important to determine legacy. If Joshua turns out to be a great fighter as well, then both of them could help each other legacy wise. There are enough young talented guys coming up so that subsequent defenses could be in order as well.

People always jump the gun when declaring greatness, it is human nature.

No my friend it is human nature to deny greatness until one proves that beyond unreasonable circumstances,I guarantee you Fury is an ATG now but you guys will wait to acknowledge that until years pass ,it’s O.K but I see things how they are .

[billeau2]

No my friend it is human nature to deny greatness until one proves that beyond unreasonable circumstances,I guarantee you Fury is an ATG now but you guys will wait to acknowledge that until years pass ,it’s O.K but I see things how they are .

Don't you think the concept of being exceptional merits thought? Who is "you guys?" You have a persecution complex?

The very concept of being exceptional demands some reflection, and part of that reflection is letting some history pass to determine certain things. Andre Ward is a perfect example. It will show that Ward fought many fellow fighters that were exceptional, I believe he is an ATG. But what of Kovalev? Was he a great fighter when Ward beat him? It kind of matters and history will show that impact down the road.

If Fury beats joshua I think a case could be made that he is an ATG, that is my marker...how great is something that history will show down the line.

If you think Fury is an ATG now, your entitled to your opinion, but I am not a member of "you guys", I am a poster with my own opinions. "you guys" kicked me out for not paying dues.

[REDEEMER]

Don't you think the concept of being exceptional merits thought? Who is "you guys?" You have a persecution complex?

The very concept of being exceptional demands some reflection, and part of that reflection is letting some history pass to determine certain things. Andre Ward is a perfect example. It will show that Ward fought many fellow fighters that were exceptional, I believe he is an ATG. But what of Kovalev? Was he a great fighter when Ward beat him? It kind of matters and history will show that impact down the road.

If Fury beats joshua I think a case could be made that he is an ATG, that is my marker...how great is something that history will show down the line.

If you think Fury is an ATG now, your entitled to your opinion, but I am not a member of "you guys", I am a poster with my own opinions. "you guys" kicked me out for not paying dues.

If you claim Fury needs to beat AJ to be an ATG that means AJ is one now .

AJ has unified the division in only 19 fights and already a two time world champion ,that alone is much more then most heavyweight in history by itself, so in your eyes he’s not great yet unless he defeated Fury ? You don’t need a long succession of being great look at Mike Tyson ? Fighters do it differently . And they don’t hand them out as much now like they did back in the day . I can list a dozen heavy weight fighters that you would mock today that are all time greats of yesteryears group.

You guys refer to the historians on here .

[The Old LefHook]

Fury is the most massive frame that has been good in the ring. This feature alone could place him high among ATGs for a while until more behemoths with talent have graced the division. The overall trend for a century has been toward bigger heavyweight champs who are more athletic than galoots of the past.

That said, I suspect he could fall closer to the Corso definition of a boxing bum than we can currently see to admit, though we will have had some advance warning, should he do it again--and that definition as I remember it was someone who does not put out maximum earnest effort consistently, for one reason or another.

If Fury can keep it together long enough to whip Wilder in the rematch, then whip Joshua a time or two, he has a good case.

Do not pay attention to a churlish conclusion monger like REDEEMER, lads. Buster Douglas had one earth-shaking win, too, but that does not make him an ATG, though on the particular night he beat Mike Tyson he would have been a complete handful for any heavyweight who ever lived, and might have beaten any of them. But the man was a bum by the Corso definition as I understand it, which he proved by coming in a fat slob against Holyfield for his first defense.

Next, cry babies will protest that Fury already beat Wilder the first time, too, and don't forget, gaybeard Klitschko.

Reasonable men will wait to see what Fury's mentality can hold himself together to accomplish. Discipline and consistency are strong factors in ATG determinations. Either Fury can summon the discipline to do as I said above, or he is not an ATG. It's that simple.

[REDEEMER]

Fury is the most massive frame that has been good in the ring. This feature alone could place him high among ATGs for a while until more behemoths with talent have graced the division. The overall trend for a century has been toward bigger heavyweight champs who are more athletic than galoots of the past.

That said, I suspect he could fall closer to the Corso definition of a boxing bum than we can currently see to admit, though we will have had some advance warning, should he do it again--and that definition as I remember it was someone who does not put out maximum earnest effort consistently, for one reason or another.

If Fury can keep it together long enough to whip Wilder in the rematch, then whip Joshua a time or two, he has a good case.

Do not pay attention to a churlish conclusion monger like REDEEMER, lads. Buster Douglas had one earth-shaking win, too, but that does not make him an ATG, though on the particular night he beat Mike Tyson he would have been a complete handful for any heavyweight who ever lived, and might have beaten any of them. But the man was a bum by the Corso definition as I understand it, which he proved by coming in a fat slob against Holyfield for his first defense.

Next, cry babies will protest that Fury already beat Wilder the first time, too, and don't forget, gaybeard Klitschko.

Reasonable men will wait to see what Fury's mentality can hold himself together to accomplish. Discipline and consistency are strong factors in ATG determinations. Either Fury can summon the discipline to do as I said above, or he is not an ATG. It's that simple.

So now we’re going to compare a lineal champion undefeated and current WBC and former unified champion to Douglas ? And you guys wonder why no one takes this section seriously, like I said this is the section to stay away from if one wants an actual realistic view . I’ve already posted more then I wanted to and stayed way longer then I should , have fun .

[removed]

Fury has defended his lineal title multiple times. The "no defenses" argument doesn't hold up.

[Nash out]

July 2015 called... it wants it's question back.


I dunno how you could watch Fury-Klitchko and not recognize Fur as the greatest ever. He has since authored the greatest comeback in Boxing history, and produce one of the greatest acts of vengeance in Boxing history.

6'9" 270 pounds, and he can move and work like that. AMAZING!

Heavyweight Top 10:
1-9) Fury
10) Who give a fook?


That;s just an educated fans opinion of course. What the space cadets roaming this place have to say, who knows?

Only thing I'll take their word on is which color crayon tastes the best.




Or... maybe not let's disrpect Fury by comparing to the championsof the past?

I haven't seen a Heavyweight of his TALENT since Tunney.

It's great to see a real man, and real Boxer hold that belt. Lifetimes have transpired since then. Let's appreciate the moment.

I agree with this. Fury at his best is better than any other HW ever.

[QueensburyRules]

Fury has defended his lineal title multiple times. The "no defenses" argument doesn't hold up.

- -The lineal title U pad U BigBoy trainers with.

A lineal a day does for U BigBoys!

[DreamFighter]

one has to defend a title at least once to be considered just a successful champion.

all ATGs did it multiple times.

i dont think fury has the mental make-up to it that if he cant do it once.