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    #91
    Originally posted by j View Post
    i'd say it is fairly true. duva tried making peter out to be the next tyson. the thing is, we've already had a mike tyson. trying to recreate that image isn't going to work quite as well. plus, the fact that he's nigerian and not american plays some part i'm sure. also, we have wladimir klitschko and maybe lyakhovich - meaning that there are people more than comparable. when tyson was up and coming, there weren't a lot of boxers who were purely destroying their opponents with his consistancy or were seen as possible threats.

    i don't discredit tyson and agree that he has some good victories. on the same token, he's lost when he's fought a perceived higher competition.

    i just chose to focus a bit more on tyson the image as that is what predominates general opinion.

    Peter failed for a reason, he doesn't have the "SKILL" of Tyson...you forgot to mention that...You see, it is the incredible ability of a 220lb Heavyweight, to fight like a middleweight, that made Tyson a sensation...How many Heavyweights do you see can throw those fast, sharp, accurate, and powerful combinations like Tyson?
    How many can bob and weave like he did, and at such a speed?

    I posted the guys name before, just don't remember at the moment, but he was in Tyson's camp and said "Cus D'amato's style for Tyson was supposed to work like this: the opponent would come out, he would jab, Tyson would make him miss and throw his own punch, then the opponent tried it again (the jab) and would miss again, Tyson would throw another one of his own and land, so by now the opponent is confused as to why he is throwing and missing while Tyson is countering and landing...it is a style that is supposed to cause confussion, and this is the reason for the success"...you see, when Tyson lost this ability, to use the style the way it was intended, he lost the "invincibility"...Tyson needed his opponents to punch so that he could counter from their openings...It is Skill that scares people...****, Tyson wasn't even that muscualr compared to a guy like Bruno, not to mention Mike isn't even 6'0 feet tall.
    Last edited by Abe Attell; 10-27-2006, 02:10 AM.

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      #92
      Originally posted by j View Post
      i'd say it is fairly true. duva tried making peter out to be the next tyson. the thing is, we've already had a mike tyson. trying to recreate that image isn't going to work quite as well. plus, the fact that he's nigerian and not american plays some part i'm sure. also, we have wladimir klitschko and maybe lyakhovich - meaning that there are people more than comparable. when tyson was up and coming, there weren't a lot of boxers who were purely destroying their opponents with his consistancy or were seen as possible threats.

      i don't discredit tyson and agree that he has some good victories. on the same token, he's lost when he's fought a perceived higher competition.

      i just chose to focus a bit more on tyson the image as that is what predominates general opinion.
      Its a very interesting subject. Yet id say people now are crying out for another Tyson. The fact that Tyson has already been and gone doesnt mean people want to see somthing new, or that there would be less interest.
      Maybe Tyson was in a way another verson of Liston, or Dempsy. And in my opinion at first wasnt just a fabricated image. He was the real deal. (ironic pun! lol)

      He did lose to fighters considered higher competion, yet many fighters have lost to underdogs. But with Tyson these loses burst the invincibility bubble, and his reputation was crushed.
      Plus as Abe Attell said, although his technique and real skill disappered, his image was hyped up by the media and his loses against Holyfield and Lewis were made out to be huge defeats. When in fact without technique and his original skills, Tyson was nothing more than a big puncher who was not much of a challenge to those top quality fighters.

      At his best he was not just a big puncher. He was a smart skillful fighter, with great timing. He knew what punch to throw and when to throw it. He did things many of the best fighters simply could never do.

      I could go on, but im disappearing up Tysons arse.

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        #93
        yall is pretty crazy
        n i seen a documentary on Tyson n he was stressed for that buster douglas fight
        if he wasnt he would dropped em in 6-7 rounds easily
        considering how he dropped em b4 he got dropped himself
        Robin n her mom was on mikes ass n he was frustrated
        all was on busters mind was winnin that title...he was more focused than tyson
        n come on
        lennox lewis?
        that fight happened too late
        wasnt it proposed in 99'?
        the only person ill give credit for beatin Tyson is Holyfeild
        both were game for that fight
        but that happened kinda late too....holyfeild was gon fight Tyson b4 he went to jail for ****(now how aint miketyson under stress n frustration?)
        now wen he was young(18-23) he was the real deal
        he was the ****
        noone could **** wit em
        not holmes or nunna da top HW's at the time

        mu****as gotta stop hatin on Tyson
        realize that he was invincible at 1 time

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          #94
          yo yo gansta...tyson is ma homie fo real

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            #95
            Originally posted by Krucial View Post
            no 1 cant beat tyson in his young days
            James Buster Douglas.....

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              #96
              Originally posted by Krucial View Post
              yall is pretty crazy
              n i seen a documentary on Tyson n he was stressed for that buster douglas fight
              if he wasnt he would dropped em in 6-7 rounds easily
              considering how he dropped em b4 he got dropped himself
              Robin n her mom was on mikes ass n he was frustrated
              all was on busters mind was winnin that title...he was more focused than tyson
              n come on
              lennox lewis?
              that fight happened too late
              wasnt it proposed in 99'?
              the only person ill give credit for beatin Tyson is Holyfeild
              both were game for that fight
              but that happened kinda late too....holyfeild was gon fight Tyson b4 he went to jail for ****(now how aint miketyson under stress n frustration?)
              now wen he was young(18-23) he was the real deal
              he was the ****
              noone could **** wit em
              not holmes or nunna da top HW's at the time

              mu****as gotta stop hatin on Tyson
              realize that he was invincible at 1 time
              man get real no one is invincible and tyson in his prime could have been beaten by a number of fighters

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                #97
                man get real no one is invincible and tyson in his prime could have been beaten by a number of fighters
                yes he can
                but it didnt happen
                douglas only did it
                but im standin by my reasons 4 that
                cuz i know its true
                if i had a naggin ***** n her mama on my ass 4 my $ i'd be stressed out
                who knows how many tears mike shed knowin that da ***** only wanted his $
                but he's the ass who loved her so much
                i'd **** Robin too tho
                but he aint think she's b a golddigger even tho she had $

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by Krucial View Post
                  yes he can
                  but it didnt happen
                  douglas only did it
                  but im standin by my reasons 4 that
                  cuz i know its true
                  if i had a naggin ***** n her mama on my ass 4 my $ i'd be stressed out
                  who knows how many tears mike shed knowin that da ***** only wanted his $
                  but he's the ass who loved her so much
                  i'd **** Robin too tho
                  but he aint think she's b a golddigger even tho she had $
                  I don't rmember Tyson beatin anyone good. And along comes Douglas and knocks him out.... Tyson is very far from invicible.

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by Krucial View Post
                    no 1 cant beat tyson in his young days
                    nobody.

                    Iron Mike Tyson kills Ali

                    Iron Mike Tyson annihilates Foreman

                    Iron Mike Tyson destroys Liston

                    can nobody even come close to a prime Iron Mike Tyson

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                      Originally posted by cyberthugpatrol View Post
                      nobody.

                      Iron Mike Tyson kills Ali

                      Iron Mike Tyson annihilates Foreman

                      Iron Mike Tyson destroys Liston

                      can nobody even come close to a prime Iron Mike Tyson

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