who could stop tyson back in the day?

[RockyMarcianofan00]

Ali would try and box Tyson and assuming we're talking about Prime Tyson I could see Tyson getting on the inside and giving Ali a beating, but this could go either way.

Foreman, I'm almost positive would beat Tyson, this would come down to who can brawl/hit harder and that is Foreman. Tyson would try to get inside and Foreman would just go to work.

Holyfeild will always stand a good chance against Tyson just because of his tools however Tyson at the same time could dominate Holyfeild in his prime so this is tougher to call.

Frazier would have trouble with Tyson early in the fight but landing a few good punches and staying off the canvas, I could see Frazier taking it.

Lennox Lewis always has his height and reach to aid him however I could see a prime Tyson dominating Lewis with "relative" ease. It probably wouldn't be a First Round Knock Out but I don't think it would go a full 12.

Liston would give Tyson trouble just because Liston hit decently hard and had a very long reach, especially for his size. However I could see Tyson getting to Liston, on the other hand I could also see Liston getting the better of Tyson.

Marciano could in fact beat Tyson. Marciano would turn Tyson's whole body and arms into targets and given his superb Stamina and punching power I could see Tyson getting tired and just getting pummeled. But given Tyson's speed I could also see Tyson TKO'ing Marciano.

I may seem alittle on the fence with a few but you can never accurately call the outcome of a fight (more or less).

[Krucial]

i agree with this guy above^^^^^

[Southpaw Stinger]

you do? you were sayin the exact opposite before.

[M26]

The fighters that WOULD stop Mike Tyson:

1. Joe Louis
He would have all the advantages to stop a prime Tyson. He had handspeed and reflexes that equaled Tysons, his power would be enough to discourage him, and his skill was far superior.

Some might say his chin wouldn't stand up to Tysons raw power, but I believe it would. Louis' chin was not soft at all. He was only kayoed twice, the first time after getting hit flush on the chin about 50-60 times, the second time as an old man by the hands of Marciano. He surely could take a punch.

I see Tyson running after Louis, only to be tied up and countered - Tyson has always been fairly easy to tie up, this was one of his drawbacks, and Louis would take full advantage of it. After a few rounds of being held and punched, punched and held, I see Tyson getting frustrated and unfocused. This is when Louis goes to work and starts battering a fading Mike.

Joe Louis by ko10.


2. Muhammad Ali
This fight would be over before it ever started. Ali would have a fieldday humiliating Tyson at the prefight conference, and I can see a very pissed off Tyson entering the ring come fightnight. This would not help him how ever, as Ali would dance circles around Tyson, tie him up when necessary and beat him to the punch all night long. I can't for the life of me ever imagine Tyson defeating Ali.

Muhammad Ali by late tko.

3. George Foreman
It's pretty simple, really. Two men runs at eachother and starts throwing bombs. The bigger, stronger and more powerful man usually wins. Tyson was faster, and he might be able to come in under Foremans arms and connect with a few hard shots. How ever, I cannot see him stopping the ironchinned Foreman, and sooner or later he would get caught with one of those massive uppercuts. Tyson would be on the canvas for keeps inside 4-5 rounds.

George Foreman by ko5.

[M26]

The fighters that PROBABLY would stop MikeTyson

1. Sonny Liston
Definitely a man that could stop Tyson. Size, reach and skill all go to Liston. Speed goes to Tyson.

They both had tons of power, a solid chin, mediocre stamina and a questionable heart. A prime Tyson probably defeats the version of Liston that was fought Clay/Ali, but the 1960-62 version could very well prove to be more than a handful for "Iron Mike".

2. Larry Holmes
Holmes got beaten badly in 1988 by a prime Tyson. This is not to say the outcome would be the same if it were the 1978-82 version of Holmes that stepped into that ring.

Holmes had all the tools to stop Tyson. Skill, size, chin, stamina and heart. He had one of the best left jabs in heavyweight history, and could also punch pretty hard when needed.

I would favor Holmes in this fight, but only by a very small margin.

[M26]

The fighters that COULD stop Mike Tyson

1. Jack Johnson
I don't think he would stop Tyson, as I figure his chin would fail this frightening test. Still, Johnson was a large man with tremendous defensive ability. In fact, one might argue Johnson to be the best defensive boxer of all time. With this in mind, I can see Johnson feinting, blocking and holding Tyson early on, to win by decision.

My money would be on Tyson though. Too fast, powerful and explosive for Johnson.

2. Jack Dempsey
Tysons boxingidol. I once read somewhere that "Jack Dempsey was everything Tyson ever wanted to be". I agree. Dempsey was a REAL toughguy with tons of heart. Adding his chin, his skill and his raw power, you have a fighting machine. Tyson would have the edge because of his sizeadvantage, as this would infact be a head-to-head clash between a cruiserweight and a heavyweight. Adding the fact that Tyson probably was a bit faster and maybe even more powerful, I would have to go with Tyson to stop the brave Dempsey.

How ever, a Dempsey win would not surprise me very much. This is actually a close call. P4P there is no contest - Dempsey would have Tyson for breakfast if he weighed in at 200lbs or above.

3. Gene Tunney
It is possible that this defensive marvel could withstand Tysons early attack to win by decision. Tunney moved very well and was fast on his feet. He also had enough power in his right hand to slow his foe down.

Still, considering the fact that he was close to being stopped against an over-the-hill Jack Dempsey, a prime 22-year old Mike Tyson would be a very dangerous opponent for the much lighter Tunney. Most likely Tyson would be overwhelming Tunney to win by early kayo. But I still say it is possible for Tunney to win this if he manages to get by the first 5-6 rounds or so.

4. Rocky Marciano
The Brockton Blockbuster was smaller than Tyson, but I say he stands a decent chance of winning this. Tysons style is best suited for opponents taller than himself. He moves side to side, getting under his opponents jab to unleash that thundering left hook or that wicked right uppercut. Against Marciano, he would face someone shorter than himself. Tyson would not get under Marcianos arms. There are no arms to get under. Only a short, stocky man with a solid chin, a lions heart, more stamina than an african longdistance runner and power to die for. To hurt Marciano, Tyson would have to face being hurt himself.

If Tyson is to win this one, he must put Marciano away early. I am not sure he can. Marciano could take a punch better than most, and he definitely could return fire. I can see Marciano surviving by coming in low, protecting his chin and simply hanging on for dear life as Tyson finishes off his early assault. As the fight goes on, Tyson would fade as he always did. Marciano was more like Joe Frazier; he warmed up to the task and got more busy and dangerous as the fight wore on. He also maintained that incredible power to the very end.

I have a difficult time deciding the outcome of this fight. Tyson was the bigger, faster and more skilled fighter. This is usually a safe sign of victory as I mentioned above regarding Tyson-Foreman. Still, Marciano had heart and stamina, plus an awkward style for Tyson. Hmm.

Anyway, Rocky Marciano COULD stop Mike Tyson, of that I am sure.

5. Joe Frazier
Much the same arguments here as with Rocky Marciano. I have no problem envisioning Frazier working his way past the first half of the fight to win by decision or late stoppage. Tyson was not in his right element having his foe come after him, as this pretty much contradicts his style of fighting. And forget about the Foreman fight. This was not a prime Frazier, and Tyson was never George Foreman.

Still, Tyson was a very fast starter, and his explosive power could prove to be enough to stop this fight early. A tough call.

[The Noose]

Good posts.
Id agree with most of it, but id give Tyson more of a chance against most of them. Like Holmes for example.
Eventhough Holmes wasnt near his best wen they fought, he still knew wat he was doing but couldnt keep the young Tyson away.
Plus the initial punch that knocked Holmes down could have KO'd most fighters, even Holmes at his best IMO.

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Plus the initial punch that knocked Holmes down could have KO'd most fighters, even Holmes at his best IMO.

Even when the Shavers right couldn't?

[The Noose]

Even when the Shavers right couldn't?

Ok, u got me. Forgot about that one. But ive never seen that fight.
Tyson was a much better finisher. So i still say Tyson could still have KO'd Holmes.

[Southpaw Stinger]

Ok, u got me. Forgot about that one. But ive never seen that fight.
Tyson was a much better finisher. So i still say Tyson could still have KO'd Holmes.

I think Tyson could still have got a tko over Holmes but it would be through the use of combos, not a one punch deal.

And I've put the Shavers vs Holmes fight in another thread if you want to watch it.

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