who could stop tyson back in the day?

[Pork Chop]

Watching 1969 Frazier vs Quarry, I think either of those 2 guys could've given Iron Mike something to think about.
I'm a little suprised to see both guys absent from most peoples' lists, or even a "maybe".

Quarry made a habit of winning as the underdog and I think Frazier would've willed himself to kill Tyson after what happened to Marvis- never downplay the daddy angle.

In 1969 Frazier had 2 hands and threw combos, those 2 things were distinctly absent from the Foreman blowouts, not that the outcome would've been THAT different. The other thing everyone forgets about the first Frazier-Foreman fight is that the ref stopped it with Joe on his feet- he got knocked down a lot but kept getting back up.
Yeah, the second time they fought (if you can call it that), the knockdown was more decisive, but Joe still got back up.

Mike Tyson couldn't get up for a fight while having personal problems, Frazier fought many fights blind in one eye; heart-wise there's no comparison.

Tyson couldn't knock out Bonecrusher Smith, a man KOd by Joe Bugner, Brian Nielsen, Razor Ruddock, Larry Holmes, and James Broad. He couldn't knock out James Tillis - a guy KOd 3 times before Tyson even got to him.

How's he going to automatically KO Frazier; a guy really only KOd by one of the top 3 all-time power hitters (using a style tailor made to beat him)?

[K-DOGG]

Watching 1969 Frazier vs Quarry, I think either of those 2 guys could've given Iron Mike something to think about.
I'm a little suprised to see both guys absent from most peoples' lists, or even a "maybe".

Quarry made a habit of winning as the underdog and I think Frazier would've willed himself to kill Tyson after what happened to Marvis- never downplay the daddy angle.

In 1969 Frazier had 2 hands and threw combos, those 2 things were distinctly absent from the Foreman blowouts, not that the outcome would've been THAT different. The other thing everyone forgets about the first Frazier-Foreman fight is that the ref stopped it with Joe on his feet- he got knocked down a lot but kept getting back up.
Yeah, the second time they fought (if you can call it that), the knockdown was more decisive, but Joe still got back up.

Mike Tyson couldn't get up for a fight while having personal problems, Frazier fought many fights blind in one eye; heart-wise there's no comparison.

Tyson couldn't knock out Bonecrusher Smith, a man KOd by Joe Bugner, Brian Nielsen, Razor Ruddock, Larry Holmes, and James Broad. He couldn't knock out James Tillis - a guy KOd 3 times before Tyson even got to him.

How's he going to automatically KO Frazier; a guy really only KOd by one of the top 3 all-time power hitters (using a style tailor made to beat him)?

Yup, both Frazier and Quarry could have beaten Tyson "back in the day"....great post.

[Verstyle]

Watching 1969 Frazier vs Quarry, I think either of those 2 guys could've given Iron Mike something to think about.
I'm a little suprised to see both guys absent from most peoples' lists, or even a "maybe".

Quarry made a habit of winning as the underdog and I think Frazier would've willed himself to kill Tyson after what happened to Marvis- never downplay the daddy angle.

In 1969 Frazier had 2 hands and threw combos, those 2 things were distinctly absent from the Foreman blowouts, not that the outcome would've been THAT different. The other thing everyone forgets about the first Frazier-Foreman fight is that the ref stopped it with Joe on his feet- he got knocked down a lot but kept getting back up.
Yeah, the second time they fought (if you can call it that), the knockdown was more decisive, but Joe still got back up.

Mike Tyson couldn't get up for a fight while having personal problems, Frazier fought many fights blind in one eye; heart-wise there's no comparison.

Tyson couldn't knock out Bonecrusher Smith, a man KOd by Joe Bugner, Brian Nielsen, Razor Ruddock, Larry Holmes, and James Broad. He couldn't knock out James Tillis - a guy KOd 3 times before Tyson even got to him.
How's he going to automatically KO Frazier; a guy really only KOd by one of the top 3 all-time power hitters (using a style tailor made to beat him)?

so whats every heavyweights excuse for not koing all there opponents. cause it seems to me that u think he shoulda koed all his opponents. well me this.why didnt foreman then? lets discuss the ppl he didnt ko

[Southpaw Stinger]

so whats every heavyweights excuse for not koing all there opponents. cause it seems to me that u think he shoulda koed all his opponents. well me this.why didnt foreman then? lets discuss the ppl he didnt ko

yeah your right it's a bit ****** to bring down champs for not having a 100% ko rating.

[butterfly1964]

Watching 1969 Frazier vs Quarry, I think either of those 2 guys could've given Iron Mike something to think about.
I'm a little suprised to see both guys absent from most peoples' lists, or even a "maybe".

Quarry made a habit of winning as the underdog and I think Frazier would've willed himself to kill Tyson after what happened to Marvis- never downplay the daddy angle.

In 1969 Frazier had 2 hands and threw combos, those 2 things were distinctly absent from the Foreman blowouts, not that the outcome would've been THAT different. The other thing everyone forgets about the first Frazier-Foreman fight is that the ref stopped it with Joe on his feet- he got knocked down a lot but kept getting back up.
Yeah, the second time they fought (if you can call it that), the knockdown was more decisive, but Joe still got back up.

Mike Tyson couldn't get up for a fight while having personal problems, Frazier fought many fights blind in one eye; heart-wise there's no comparison.

Tyson couldn't knock out Bonecrusher Smith, a man KOd by Joe Bugner, Brian Nielsen, Razor Ruddock, Larry Holmes, and James Broad. He couldn't knock out James Tillis - a guy KOd 3 times before Tyson even got to him.

How's he going to automatically KO Frazier; a guy really only KOd by one of the top 3 all-time power hitters (using a style tailor made to beat him)?

I don't see how Quarry would have a chance. He cut too easily, plus, he wasn't really a spectacular fighter.

[Kid Achilles]

Quarry definitely was a spectacular fighter who a prime Foreman openly ducked and wanted nothing to do with. I can't guarantee he beats Tyson but he gives him a good fight and was better than anyone Tyson fought except for Lewis and Holyfield.

[butterfly1964]

Quarry definitely was a spectacular fighter who a prime Foreman openly ducked and wanted nothing to do with. I can't guarantee he beats Tyson but he gives him a good fight and was better than anyone Tyson fought except for Lewis and Holyfield.

Quarry wasn't what you would call a great fighter. He was a good fighter, nothing more. Stylistically, I don't think Quarry would give him much trouble.

Plus Spinks is better than Quarry, not just Lewis and Holyfield.

[Tysonisgod]

Buster Douglas beat him in his young days(and dont give me **** about tyson on that night LOOK AT MY NAME)

[phallus]

Watching 1969 Frazier vs Quarry, I think either of those 2 guys could've given Iron Mike something to think about.
I'm a little suprised to see both guys absent from most peoples' lists, or even a "maybe".

Quarry made a habit of winning as the underdog and I think Frazier would've willed himself to kill Tyson after what happened to Marvis- never downplay the daddy angle.

In 1969 Frazier had 2 hands and threw combos, those 2 things were distinctly absent from the Foreman blowouts, not that the outcome would've been THAT different. The other thing everyone forgets about the first Frazier-Foreman fight is that the ref stopped it with Joe on his feet- he got knocked down a lot but kept getting back up.
Yeah, the second time they fought (if you can call it that), the knockdown was more decisive, but Joe still got back up.

Mike Tyson couldn't get up for a fight while having personal problems, Frazier fought many fights blind in one eye; heart-wise there's no comparison.

Tyson couldn't knock out Bonecrusher Smith, a man KOd by Joe Bugner, Brian Nielsen, Razor Ruddock, Larry Holmes, and James Broad. He couldn't knock out James Tillis - a guy KOd 3 times before Tyson even got to him.

How's he going to automatically KO Frazier; a guy really only KOd by one of the top 3 all-time power hitters (using a style tailor made to beat him)?

if foreman was a bigger puncher than tyson, and i think he was, i don't see tython knocking smokin joe out. a prime tython - when he threw combinations, moved his head, and put his body weight into his punches would give a prime frazier a good fight, but i think once tython realized he couldn't really hurt frazier he would start mentally caving in. a prime frazier knocks tython out in the middle rounds.

quarry is a very underrrated fighter, i think, had less fighters ducked him he had all the tools to be a hw champ - then we'd all be talking about how great he was. a "good fighter" in quarry's time - the 70's is a great fighter against today's hw bums

[butterfly1964]

Buster Douglas beat him in his young days(and dont give me **** about tyson on that night LOOK AT MY NAME)

Agreed....