Retracing the lineal P4P #1 fighter thru the years

[Humean]

First try, best p4p the end of the calendar year, needs a lot of work done to it though, all the ones with more than one name are because I haven't narrowed down yet. Try and amend it Sugar Adam Ali or others?


1946 louis robinson/pep
1947 louis/robinson/pep
1948 louis/robinson/saddler
1949 robinson/pep
1950 robinson
1951 robinson
1952 robinson/archie moore
1953 archie moore/gavilan/rocky marciano
1954 archie moore/rocky marciano
1955 robinson/rocky marciano
1956 robinson
1957 robinson/archie moore/brown/duilio loi
1958 robinson/archie moore/brown/duilio loi
1959 robinson archie moore/davey moore/brown
1960 jofre/ duilio loi/davey moore/flash elorde
1961 jofre/ duilio loi/davey moore
1962 jofre/duilio loi/ortiz/griffith
1963 jofre/ortiz
1964 ortiz
1965 ortiz/muhammad ali/harada
1966 ortiz/muhammad ali/griffith/harada/saldivar
1967 ortiz/muhammad ali/griffith/harada/saldivar
1968 foster/benvenuti/cokes
1969 napoles
1970 monzon/frazier
1971 monzon/frazier/napoles
1972 monzon/duran/napoles
1973 monzon/duran/napoles
1974 monzon/duran/muhammad ali
1975 monzon/duran/muhammad ali
1976 monzon/duran
1977 monzon/duran
1978 duran
1979 duran
1980 duran
1981 leonard
1982 pryor
1983 hagler/pryor
1984 hagler/
1985 hagler
1986 spinks/hagler
1987 chavez
1988 tyson
1989 whitaker
1990 whitaker
1991 chavez
1992 chavez
1993 whitaker
1994 whitaker
1995 whitaker
1996 whitaker
1997 de la hoya
1998 de la hoya
1999 jones jr
2000 trinidad/mosley
2001 hopkins
2002 jones jr
2003 jones jr
2004 hopkins
2005 mayweather
2006 mayweather
2007 mayweather
2008 pacquiao
2009 pacqiao
2010 pacquiao
2011 pacquiao
2012 mayweather
2013 mayweather tbc

[Ray Corso]

How can there be two at the same time? I hate Draws!

Sugar Ray is the best all time fighter/boxer, theres no one better.

.....and yes you decide at the end of the year...then decade....I think its silly but so are the fans at times so there you go......Ray.

[Humean]

How can there be two at the same time? I hate Draws!

Sugar Ray is the best all time fighter/boxer, theres no one better.

.....and yes you decide at the end of the year...then decade....I think its silly but so are the fans at times so there you go......Ray.

Read what I said on the top line Ray, I placed more than one because I haven't decided. By all means amend the list to eliminate all the multiple names.

[joeandthebums]

Hasn't this whole "pound-for-pound" thing got a bit silly?

Robinson got the description as we know due to the universal acknowledgement of his abilities and from his performances at welterweight and middleweight.

That's probably where it should of stopped?

Duran started to receive the tag in the build-up to Duran-Leonard I and from that list, that does seem to be the starting point of the current trend.

The term now has come to become the equivalent of the Val Barker Trophy.

[Humean]

Hasn't this whole "pound-for-pound" thing got a bit silly?

Robinson got the description as we know due to the universal acknowledgement of his abilities and from his performances at welterweight and middleweight.

That's probably where it should of stopped?

Duran started to receive the tag in the build-up to Duran-Leonard I and from that list, that does seem to be the starting point of the current trend.

The term now has come to become the equivalent of the Val Barker Trophy.

I fail to see why it is silly to try and think about who is the best in the sport at a given time.

[joeandthebums]

I fail to see why it is silly to try and think about who is the best in the sport at a given time.

Perhaps I am in the minority in finding it frivolous.

Hypothetical contests I understand, this I don't.

[Chiboxing123]

Ok, i thought this might be fun and would create some good discussion,,,

Lets retrace the lineal P4P #1 history from present day and work backwards as far as we can,,,

I know p4p lists are very opinionated but usually when it comes who is #1 there is usually a clear cut favorite,,, So i will start it off

floyd, 2010-present
manny- 2008-2010
floyd 2005-2008
hopkins- 2004-05
roy jones- 94-04
pernell- 94-88
chavez- 86-88 ?????????


Feel free to debate my selections or add your own, I by no means think i have it all figured out,,, I can only go back to about 88 with chavez, then it starts getting really tough, spinks, hearns, hagler, probably forgetting somebody, etc,,,, Was ALi #1 in the early 70s and 60s

Please discuss, lets see how far we can go back

Sweet pea was really pfp #1 for 6 years?????? I knew he was good but damn. I just check the ring rankings for fighter of the year ill see if I can put them up.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Sweet pea was really pfp #1 for 6 years?????? I knew he was good but damn. I just check the ring rankings for fighter of the year ill see if I can put them up.

thats was just my own personal belief,,, ring probably didnt have him #1 that long,,,
IMO he was the best from 88 to 94 till roy jones took the mantle after his win over toney

[Sugar Adam Ali]

First try, best p4p the end of the calendar year, needs a lot of work done to it though, all the ones with more than one name are because I haven't narrowed down yet. Try and amend it Sugar Adam Ali or others?


1946 louis robinson/pep
1947 louis/robinson/pep
1948 louis/robinson/saddler
1949 robinson/pep
1950 robinson
1951 robinson
1952 robinson/archie moore
1953 archie moore/gavilan/rocky marciano
1954 archie moore/rocky marciano
1955 robinson/rocky marciano
1956 robinson
1957 robinson/archie moore/brown/duilio loi
1958 robinson/archie moore/brown/duilio loi
1959 robinson archie moore/davey moore/brown
1960 jofre/ duilio loi/davey moore/flash elorde
1961 jofre/ duilio loi/davey moore
1962 jofre/duilio loi/ortiz/griffith
1963 jofre/ortiz
1964 ortiz
1965 ortiz/muhammad ali/harada
1966 ortiz/muhammad ali/griffith/harada/saldivar
1967 ortiz/muhammad ali/griffith/harada/saldivar
1968 foster/benvenuti/cokes
1969 napoles
1970 monzon/frazier
1971 monzon/frazier/napoles
1972 monzon/duran/napoles
1973 monzon/duran/napoles
1974 monzon/duran/muhammad ali
1975 monzon/duran/muhammad ali
1976 monzon/duran
1977 monzon/duran
1978 duran
1979 duran
1980 duran
1981 leonard
1982 pryor
1983 hagler/pryor
1984 hagler/
1985 hagler
1986 spinks/hagler
1987 chavez
1988 tyson
1989 whitaker
1990 whitaker
1991 chavez
1992 chavez
1993 whitaker
1994 whitaker
1995 whitaker
1996 whitaker
1997 de la hoya
1998 de la hoya
1999 jones jr
2000 trinidad/mosley
2001 hopkins
2002 jones jr
2003 jones jr
2004 hopkins
2005 mayweather
2006 mayweather
2007 mayweather
2008 pacquiao
2009 pacqiao
2010 pacquiao
2011 pacquiao
2012 mayweather
2013 mayweather tbc

Thanks for the list...

I have a question for some of the older posters about monzon,, I watched his fights, but he was before my time, was he really that technically sound to be a p4p #1... not dis*****g his status as a top mw, but i always thought he was alittle crude, and not as sound of a fighter as say hagler or hopkins,,
what do you guys think

[MRBOOMER]

Perhaps I am in the minority in finding it frivolous.

Hypothetical contests I understand, this I don't.

This guy gets it. It's a waste of time.