Mythical Match Up #1: Ray Leonard vs. Aaron Pryor (Spring, 1982)

[JAB5239]

- - The evidence is quite clear that Billy Collins and Wlad were both done in by dangerously illicit means, but Wlad's Mickey Finn was something of an ongoing national disgrace with the development of new date **** drugs for which drug testing is behind the curve as badly as you.

Pryor and Lewis are innocent until proven guilty for Arguello fights, but clearly Lewis removed padding from Resto's gloves, so again you overstate your case to obliviate any credibility you might own. Resto fought in NYcommish and Billy's fat daddy approved gloves as I STATED previously for over 2 decades now.

Leonard ducked Pryor when he was hottest trying to make the fight. Leonard made a fight offer when Pryor was tied up in a legal dispute between two promoters knowing the fight was impossible to make.


It's like you was born yesterday for the infinite time yet again.

Wrong. There is proof Lewis is a cheater. There is circumstantial evidence Lewis and Pruor cheated in the first Arguello fight. There is absolutely nothing to say Wlad was poisoned except him punching himself out and getting knocked out because of it. But again find it funny you say "innocent until proven guilty " about Pryor and Lewis, but automatically assume with no proof Wlad losing was anyone else fault but his own.


Pryor was offered a half million dollars to fight Leonard and 750k, rekecting both offers because he wanted more, even though it was by far his biggest pay day.was it being between promoters that made him reject the money? Sorry, but Leonard never ducked Pryor, who Ray would have beaten rather easily.

[them_apples]

Wrong. There is proof Lewis is a cheater. There is circumstantial evidence Lewis and Pruor cheated in the first Arguello fight. There is absolutely nothing to say Wlad was poisoned except him punching himself out and getting knocked out because of it. But again find it funny you say "innocent until proven guilty " about Pryor and Lewis, but automatically assume with no proof Wlad losing was anyone else fault but his own.


Pryor was offered a half million dollars to fight Leonard and 750k, rekecting both offers because he wanted more, even though it was by far his biggest pay day.was it being between promoters that made him reject the money? Sorry, but Leonard never ducked Pryor, who Ray would have beaten rather easily.​

If a gun was to my head I'd say the guy was a cheater for sure. I notice Queensbury lives in denial when it comes to cheating in boxing. He doesn't want to believe it. The greasiest sport in the world has no foul play?? lol

[them_apples]

Na you're giving too easy an out for Lewis.

He asked for "the one I mixed" after refusing a perfectly good bottle of water.

You're right that proves nothing, except when dealing with a guy who would go on to remove padding from gloves an ruin two mens' lives.

Suddenly with that history, the guy's remark "No, the one I mixed" seems to matter.

yeah totally.

and on top of that, if anyone ever bothered to do a deep dive on Lewis, it would probably be easy to dig up a lot of evidence. The glove padding removing is honestly evidence enough - he had no problem cheating and breaking rules, to the point where he could kill someone. If someone actually wrote a truthful book on the guy, it would probably be a goldmine of grease, a page turner.

[JAB5239]

If a gun was to my head I'd say the guy was a cheater for sure. I notice Queensbury lives in denial when it comes to cheating in boxing. He doesn't want to believe it. The greasiest sport in the world has no foul play?? lol

He'd believe in the tooth fairy one day to suit his agenda and then say the tooth fairy doesn't exist the next day in a different debate.

[QueensburyRules]

just watch the video. I admit i was thinking "klitschko looked like he was on form then suddenly he is out cold he must have been drugged I thought"
But now we realise why he suddenly was out. Because he threw the fight for the mafia to get hold of that lovely lovely moolah!
But don't get too upset because your hero is still a hero and you can still love him and write him love letters to his fanclub and remember he won at least a few of his fights legally and fairly. He just couldn't resist that lovely lovely moolah!

- - Seen the fights, studied the issues. Don't need some idiot video.

[QueensburyRules]

Wrong. There is proof Lewis is a cheater. There is circumstantial evidence Lewis and Pruor cheated in the first Arguello fight. There is absolutely nothing to say Wlad was poisoned except him punching himself out and getting knocked out because of it. But again find it funny you say "innocent until proven guilty " about Pryor and Lewis, but automatically assume with no proof Wlad losing was anyone else fault but his own.


Pryor was offered a half million dollars to fight Leonard and 750k, rekecting both offers because he wanted more, even though it was by far his biggest pay day.was it being between promoters that made him reject the money? Sorry, but Leonard never ducked Pryor, who Ray would have beaten rather easily.

- - Only circumstantial evidence that Lewis cheated in the Pryor/Arguello I fight is in the typical immature fight fan still full of Tinkerbell fairie dust.

We don't know what was in Pryor or Arguello fight bottles and anyone claiming otherwise needs to hire Tinkerbell to make his case.

Publicly at the start of their championship careers Pryor was at Ray fights calling him out. When interviewed, Ray was non committal, which is better that he treated other fighters with his primadonna contracts that TBE TUE later aped to greater success.

[JAB5239]

- - Only circumstantial evidence that Lewis cheated in the Pryor/Arguello I fight is in the typical immature fight fan still full of Tinkerbell fairie dust.

We don't know what was in Pryor or Arguello fight bottles and anyone claiming otherwise needs to hire Tinkerbell to make his case.

Publicly at the start of their championship careers Pryor was at Ray fights calling him out. When interviewed, Ray was non committal, which is better that he treated other fighters with his primadonna contracts that TBE TUE later aped to greater success.

Fairy dust for Pryor and Lewis, but Wlad was poisoned with ZERO proof. BRILLIANT!!!

Pryor didn't have the star power to get a Leonard fight while also being in a lower division. When he was offered the fight he ducked it.

[QueensburyRules]

Fairy dust for Pryor and Lewis, but Wlad was poisoned with ZERO proof. BRILLIANT!!!

Pryor didn't have the star power to get a Leonard fight while also being in a lower division. When he was offered the fight he ducked it.

- - Clearly Wlad was drugged in a fight that had been a cakewalk where he scarcely took a shot. The post fight medical report reads like a horror movie.

You have yet to show fights where his stamina was in question. Answer...Ask Tinkerbell...

[just the facts]

Fairy dust for Pryor and Lewis, but Wlad was poisoned with ZERO proof. BRILLIANT!!!

Pryor didn't have the star power to get a Leonard fight while also being in a lower division. When he was offered the fight he ducked it.

You already know this buy you’re trying to present facts to an idiot who thinks his OPINIONS are fact. Quit wasting your time, Queeny is an ignorant dbag to the extreme degree.

[JAB5239]

- - Clearly Wlad was drugged in a fight that had been a cakewalk where he scarcely took a shot. The post fight medical report reads like a horror movie.

You have yet to show fights where his stamina was in question. Answer...Ask Tinkerbell...

Answer...the Puritty fight. He also looked tired in other fights until Manny taught him the jab and grab technique. Wlad wasn't made for a firefight, that was obvious.

And there is more evidence of a tainted bottle by Panama Lewis than of Wlad being drugged.