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Mythical Match Up #1: Ray Leonard vs. Aaron Pryor (Spring, 1982)

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    #91
    Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

    Answer...the Puritty fight. He also looked tired in other fights until Manny taught him the jab and grab technique. Wlad wasn't made for a firefight, that was obvious.

    And there is more evidence of a tainted bottle by Panama Lewis than of Wlad being drugged.
    - - Never watched the Puritty fight. Wlad fought at a high pace for 10 rounds, but got dropped suddenly end of 11th when after replicating a punching bag, Puritty basically pulled a sucker punch, same thing that Bonecrusher pulled on Tyson in their last round.

    Wlad never got his legs under him, got dropped the start of the 12th round and Ama trainer stopped the bout. Manny would've had Wlad on defense the last rounds, but the Ks were marketed as invincible KO machines who were never trained in the nuances of professional boxing.

    There are no fighters of note I know of who turned pro with ama trainers. Wlad eventually went with Manny, but Vit stayed with his who is now a Ukrainian legend as your spread sheet shows...geesh, I'm wasting my time!

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      #92
      Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

      - - Never watched the Puritty fight. Wlad fought at a high pace for 10 rounds, but got dropped suddenly end of 11th when after replicating a punching bag, Puritty basically pulled a sucker punch, same thing that Bonecrusher pulled on Tyson in their last round.

      Wlad never got his legs under him, got dropped the start of the 12th round and Ama trainer stopped the bout. Manny would've had Wlad on defense the last rounds, but the Ks were marketed as invincible KO machines who were never trained in the nuances of professional boxing.

      There are no fighters of note I know of who turned pro with ama trainers. Wlad eventually went with Manny, but Vit stayed with his who is now a Ukrainian legend as your spread sheet shows...geesh, I'm wasting my time!
      Sdunek was a professional trainer, that been established and proven already. And Wlad looked like he did against Brewster. Tired, beaten and crest fallen. Was he poisoned against Puritty as well??

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        #93
        Didn't Pryor beat Leonard in the Ams?

        That doesn't equate to victory for Pryor in the pros, but then again, some guys just always have anothers number.

        Solid match up though.

        ..................Rockin'

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          #94
          Originally posted by Rockin' View Post
          Didn't Pryor beat Leonard in the Ams?

          That doesn't equate to victory for Pryor in the pros, but then again, some guys just always have anothers number.

          Solid match up though.

          ..................Rockin'
          Pryor beat Hearns in the amatuers. He and Leonard sparred at the pan am games in 1975.

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            #95
            Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

            Sdunek was a professional trainer, that been established and proven already. And Wlad looked like he did against Brewster. Tired, beaten and crest fallen. Was he poisoned against Puritty as well??
            - - Only thing that is established is that you are giving boxes of rocks a bad reputation.

            Brewster was a low punch output fight where Wlad was easily muscling him around while landing 95% of the few punches.

            I take Big George word that he was partially drugged in that he ended up spitting out what he could after the first gulp. I'll take the word of Manny, Vit, my buddy who was part of Shane Mosley's corner when he turned pro, and the gross physical abnormalities of the corrupt Vegas Commish along with my own eyes when I jumped up at the moment when the drug took full effect.

            I pointed out how Resto fought with commish and Billy's fat daddy approved gloves just to underline what a dirty nakedly dirty sport boxing is when it can birth the likes of you.

            The dirty laundry list of boxing would shame the mafia.

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              #96
              Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

              - - Only thing that is established is that you are giving boxes of rocks a bad reputation.

              Brewster was a low punch output fight where Wlad was easily muscling him around while landing 95% of the few punches.

              I take Big George word that he was partially drugged in that he ended up spitting out what he could after the first gulp. I'll take the word of Manny, Vit, my buddy who was part of Shane Mosley's corner when he turned pro, and the gross physical abnormalities of the corrupt Vegas Commish along with my own eyes when I jumped up at the moment when the drug took full effect.

              I pointed out how Resto fought with commish and Billy's fat daddy approved gloves just to underline what a dirty nakedly dirty sport boxing is when it can birth the likes of you.

              The dirty laundry list of boxing would shame the mafia.
              You take George's word he was drugged because it suits your agenda. You're to ****** to realize Foreman went back on that claim saying he made it up out of embarrassment.

              As far as who to believe......I'll take the word of the doctor who had no ties to either fighter of said fighters trainer who is not a doctor, and some people who watched it on television.

              So again, you still have NO proof!!

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                #97
                Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

                You take George's word he was drugged because it suits your agenda. You're to ****** to realize Foreman went back on that claim saying he made it up out of embarrassment.

                As far as who to believe......I'll take the word of the doctor who had no ties to either fighter of said fighters trainer who is not a doctor, and some people who watched it on television.

                So again, you still have NO proof!!
                - - No, George didn't want to make it publicly sound like he was crying over something he was long over with. He never said another word to Sadler again, cut him out completely, and was on the outs with Archie Moore until Moore convinced him he wasn't in on it.

                George Plimpton saw it when I did, crying out it was a fixed fight. I said he was drugged, and this long before his By George bio came out that was the first time I heard that he'd been drugged. YOU are the embarrassment, a fool or a monkey with a keyboard.

                It was a fixed fight with too many obvious fixes from the cut first day of sparring, being held hostage in a murderous country surrounded by armed soldiers in their barracks while Ali is sucking up to the murderous Mobutu in his presidential mansion.

                Ali ducked the 10mil 50/50 purse split for the immediate rematch in Indonesia to go get beat up and crying for peanuts by Wepner in Ohio. Ali was the one who was never the same.

                Box of Rocks gonna organize a protest over you giving them a bad name.

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

                  - - No, George didn't want to make it publicly sound like he was crying over something he was long over with. He never said another word to Sadler again, cut him out completely, and was on the outs with Archie Moore until Moore convinced him he wasn't in on it.

                  George Plimpton saw it when I did, crying out it was a fixed fight. I said he was drugged, and this long before his By George bio came out that was the first time I heard that he'd been drugged. YOU are the embarrassment, a fool or a monkey with a keyboard.

                  It was a fixed fight with too many obvious fixes from the cut first day of sparring, being held hostage in a murderous country surrounded by armed soldiers in their barracks while Ali is sucking up to the murderous Mobutu in his presidential mansion.

                  Ali ducked the 10mil 50/50 purse split for the immediate rematch in Indonesia to go get beat up and crying for peanuts by Wepner in Ohio. Ali was the one who was never the same.

                  Box of Rocks gonna organize a protest over you giving them a bad name.
                  Lmao......George himself says he made up the story of being drugged because he couldn't handle the fact he lost to Ali. This has been written and you can find him saying it on camera. But you still want to claim it was fixed. Trust me, between us you are the only idiot here and it plain and obvious to see.

                  I would hate to live a day in your shoes licking windows all day while tipping a cheap bottle of whatever you can get your grubby little hands on. You're pathetic!!
                  Last edited by JAB5239; 06-20-2023, 02:54 PM.

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                    #99
                    - - Just a reminder that nearing 50 George before he retired was never embarrassed and said what he said.

                    Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post
                    - - No, George didn't want to make it publicly sound like he was crying over something he was long over with. He never said another word to Sadler again, cut him out completely, and was on the outs with Archie Moore until Moore convinced him he wasn't in on it.

                    George Plimpton saw it when I did, crying out it was a fixed fight. I said he was drugged, and this long before his By George bio came out that was the first time I heard that he'd been drugged. YOU are the embarrassment, a fool or a monkey with a keyboard.

                    It was a fixed fight with too many obvious fixes from the cut first day of sparring, being held hostage in a murderous country surrounded by armed soldiers in their barracks while Ali is sucking up to the murderous Mobutu in his presidential mansion.

                    Ali ducked the 10mil 50/50 purse split for the immediate rematch in Indonesia to go get beat up and crying for peanuts by Wepner in Ohio. Ali was the one who was never the same.

                    Box of Rocks gonna organize a protest over you giving them a bad name.​

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                      Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post
                      - - Just a reminder that nearing 50 George before he retired was never embarrassed and said what he said.

                      Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post
                      - - No, George didn't want to make it publicly sound like he was crying over something he was long over with. He never said another word to Sadler again, cut him out completely, and was on the outs with Archie Moore until Moore convinced him he wasn't in on it.

                      George Plimpton saw it when I did, crying out it was a fixed fight. I said he was drugged, and this long before his By George bio came out that was the first time I heard that he'd been drugged. YOU are the embarrassment, a fool or a monkey with a keyboard.

                      It was a fixed fight with too many obvious fixes from the cut first day of sparring, being held hostage in a murderous country surrounded by armed soldiers in their barracks while Ali is sucking up to the murderous Mobutu in his presidential mansion.

                      Ali ducked the 10mil 50/50 purse split for the immediate rematch in Indonesia to go get beat up and crying for peanuts by Wepner in Ohio. Ali was the one who was never the same.

                      Box of Rocks gonna organize a protest over you giving them a bad name.​
                      Nah, everyone already knows you're a troll and boxing know nothing. I just like pointing it out because I know it p*sses you off!!

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