My Top Ten Greatest Heavyweight Champs Of All Time!

[Kid Achilles]

He was definitely flatfooted. More so than Joe Louis. That's just the way he fought, it was his style. He was a power counter puncher. He moved to some degree but he was never, ever up on his toes. He was no Gene Tunney that's for sure, and that's what you needed to be to stay away from Dempsey. Tom Gibbons was a much better mover than Johnson and even he couldn't escape Dempsey's fury.

I don't see Johnson surviving Dempsey's assault, not with that style. Johnson never faced a bodypuncher like Jack Dempsey. The picking and parrying works well against guys who are headhunters but without mobility the body is always a viable target. When the opponent is Jack Dempsey, whose hands weren't much slower than Johnson's, it becomes increasingly dangerous to try and catch and parry those punches.

Dempsey would wear him out with a body attack and stop him/KO him late in the fight.

[butterfly1964]

He was definitely flatfooted. More so than Joe Louis. That's just the way he fought, it was his style. He was a power counter puncher. He moved to some degree but he was never, ever up on his toes. He was no Gene Tunney that's for sure, and that's what you needed to be to stay away from Dempsey. Tom Gibbons was a much better mover than Johnson and even he couldn't escape Dempsey's fury.

I don't see Johnson surviving Dempsey's assault, not with that style. Johnson never faced a bodypuncher like Jack Dempsey. The picking and parrying works well against guys who are headhunters but without mobility the body is always a viable target. When the opponent is Jack Dempsey, whose hands weren't much slower than Johnson's, it becomes increasingly dangerous to try and catch and parry those punches.

Dempsey would wear him out with a body attack and stop him/KO him late in the fight.

worst post ever. so dempsey wasn't a headhunter? johnson moved well, when he needed to, he didn't waste energy by dancing around all the time, if dempsey threw a punch, johnson would quickly tie him up and frustrate him. you're fighting a losing battle, dempsey wasn't that good, someone like johnson could tie up any big puncher that was smaller than him, like dempsey was. and dempsey had a glass chin too, so how do you know johnson wouldn't overwhelm him, which he would, cause johnson is bigger and taller and more powerful and faster and has quicker reflexes. it's no contest.

[leff]

i remember from a documentary that johnson hed his feet weel plantet on the canvas, i think the guy is slightly overrated as boxer because he was the first black champion.

i dont see him beating either marciano ore dempsey.

[leff]

top ten

ali
louis
marciano

the 3 first are in no particular order, hard to decide.

foreman
frazier
liston
holmes
dempsey
tunney
lewis

[butterfly1964]

top ten

ali
louis
marciano

the 3 first are in no particular order, hard to decide.

foreman
frazier
liston
holmes
dempsey
tunney
lewis

why is marciano in your top three? marciano is better that foreman, frazier, liston, holmes, dempsey, and lewis? i don't think so. they all would crush marciano with no problem at all.

[Brockton Lip]

why is marciano in your top three? marciano is better that foreman, frazier, liston, holmes, dempsey, and lewis? i don't think so. they all would crush marciano with no problem at all.

I can definitely agree with Leff's top 3.

[butterfly1964]

I can definitely agree with Leff's top 3.

i'll repeat myself. marciano can beat foreman, liston, holmes, frazier, tyson, louis, johnson, holyfield, dempsey, lewis, ect ect ect?

[leff]

i'll repeat myself. marciano can beat foreman, liston, holmes, frazier, tyson, louis, johnson, holyfield, dempsey, lewis, ect ect ect?

marciaon could probably beat dempsey,tunney,johnson,frazier,liston and tyson.

i see him getting trouble from lewis ali and holmes

[butterfly1964]

marciaon could probably beat dempsey,tunney,johnson,frazier,liston and tyson.

i see him getting trouble from lewis ali and holmes

no sense arguing with a marciano lover.

[Kid Achilles]

Dempsey a glass-chinned headhunter?

For your own sake please stop here. You might look back on this post in a few years, when you've learned a little more about the sport's history, and cringe at your words.

For the purpose of your education, Dempsey was at his best on the inside and was a tremendous body puncher. If boxing matches were fought inside phone booths, Dempsey would have retired undefeated. Short blindingly fast punches thrown with complete bodyweight behind them were his specialty. His chin has always been considered well above average, and his recovery was astounding, perhaps the best of any heavyweight champion. You are the first person I've ever heard to suggest that Dempsey had a glass chin. Congratulations.

You've likely only seen him against Willard where 1. He was fighting a giant and so was forced to fight on the outside in the first moments of that fight 2. Caved in his cheek bone with the first flush hook that landed, and so he went out of his way to knock Willard out while he had him hurt. Yes he was wild in that fight because Willard was momentarily defenseless (showing primte Dempsey's great fighting instinct and awareness of his opponents condition) and had no way of hurting him back. You can see that in the second and third rounds where Willard has regained his senses and Dempsey, in reaction, boxes conservatively.

Your top ten list shows an apparent lack of knowledge concerning boxing pre-1960's, but you seem like a decent enough guy so it's forgivable. Stick to writing about Ali and leave the top ten lists to people who are more objective in their debates, who've done research (fight films and essays written by men who've actually seen these guys fight live), and are more interested in the truth than in some ulterior motive as in your case (your motive being building up Ali and his opponents of course).

I apologize if that comes across as harsh, but that's just how I see your list.