Ali vs Holmes: Was it as bad as they say?

[salsanchezfan]

Holmes-Ali was the single saddest event I watched since I've been following boxing. It's all been rehashed here, but Ali had absolutely nothing. I give Holmes credit for pulling his punches at times during the fight; I even remember him appealing to the referee to stop it at one point.

And Ali's corner should be taken to task here too for not stopping it sooner. They should have known better than anyone in the arena or watching it on TV that it was a lost cause.

[TheBostonBasher]

Truley an exciting match!

I always really dug the Holmes/Ali fight. It always stuck me as one of the ***iest fights in history. It could have only been better if Larry would have been throwing real punches and knocked that clown clean out. ***y fun time I have watchin' Ali's eyes get all big after some of the more serious blows in the early rounds, man it turns me on. Yeah! He was a paper champion and Holmes proved it!

PS- Round 7 of his last carrer fight with T.B. was another round that turns me on oine Ali got slammed good and almost went down, which would have been glorious!!!

[Heckler]

I always really dug the Holmes/Ali fight. It always stuck me as one of the ***iest fights in history. It could have only been better if Larry would have been throwing real punches and knocked that clown clean out. ***y fun time I have watchin' Ali's eyes get all big after some of the more serious blows in the early rounds, man it turns me on. Yeah! He was a paper champion and Holmes proved it!

PS- Round 7 of his last carrer fight with T.B. was another round that turns me on oine Ali got slammed good and almost went down, which would have been glorious!!!

Yeah a 38 year old man, taken some of the most brutal punishment seen in boxing, with parkisons is a paper champion cos he got beaten by a brilliant boxer in his prime, ****en moron... you dont have to like Ali, but anyone whom appreciates boxing should atleast RESPECT him.

[Kimmy]

And Ali's corner should be taken to task here too for not stopping it sooner. They should have known better than anyone in the arena or watching it on TV that it was a lost cause.

"Believe, Dundee wanted this fight stopped around the fifth round but he was scared off doing so because Eligeih Muhammad, Ali's manager, was in the audience and got word to Dundee that any attempt to stop the fight and prevent God's intervention would result in serious damage to he and his own.

Only in the tenth round did Ali's manager gave signal to Dundee that he could stop the fight."

Ref: Thomas Hauser, Ali: 2000 re-print

[Frazier's 15th round]

Ali's corner was pretty cruel throughout his career. You have Dundee pushing him out blind into Round 5 against Liston, you had them telling him to suck it up and keep going while he was nearly passing out against Frazier III, and now I learn that Elijah Muhammad wouldn't let Dundee stop it until round 10.

[Brassangel]

It wasn't a pretty fight. Keep in mind that Holmes had the privelage of being Ali's sparring partner for a while, and he could have been a formidable opponent for Ali in any era. While Muhammad would have won 2 out of 3 (perhaps), Holmes is one of the all-time greats. Pitting a brilliant Holmes against a 38 year old man and allowing the fight to go beyond 5 was rediculous.

[butterfly1964]

you are the biggest ****!

I always really dug the Holmes/Ali fight. It always stuck me as one of the ***iest fights in history. It could have only been better if Larry would have been throwing real punches and knocked that clown clean out. ***y fun time I have watchin' Ali's eyes get all big after some of the more serious blows in the early rounds, man it turns me on. Yeah! He was a paper champion and Holmes proved it!

PS- Round 7 of his last carrer fight with T.B. was another round that turns me on oine Ali got slammed good and almost went down, which would have been glorious!!!

you are one gay ******. i'm sure even the ali that fought holmes would beat your ass with ease, you ****. "ali was a paper champ" STFU, if ali was a paper champ then every other champion in sports history was and is a paper champion you ****** mofo. the guy had parkinson's disease and was on drugs, that don't mean ****! lol, you must be a white racist or joe frazier or someone else that ali KTFO! you're a brainless prick, so go post your bull**** elsewhere.

[Southpaw Stinger]

you are one gay ******. i'm sure even the ali that fought holmes would beat your ass with ease, you ****. "ali was a paper champ" STFU, if ali was a paper champ then every other champion in sports history was and is a paper champion you ****** mofo. the guy had parkinson's disease and was on drugs, that don't mean ****! lol, you must be a white racist or joe frazier or someone else that ali KTFO! you're a brainless prick, so go post your bull**** elsewhere.

I'm sure the guy was joking. If he was being serious then he deserves a good whuppon!

[Boxclever]

I consider myself a big Ali fan and I've seen many of his early to mid career fights. But I have not seen the bout between him and Larry Holmes. From what I have heard and read the bout was a total mismatch and Ali took alot of unneccesary punishment before his corner halted the fight. Have any of you guys seen this fight? Is it as bad as everyone says? As a fan of Muhammad Ali's should I watch it or forget about it?

If you watch it you WILL be upset. I've seen it once and will NEVER watch it again.

[Frazier's 15th round]

or joe frazier or someone else that ali KTFO

To knock someone the **** out, you'd have to knock them down, first.