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- - Yup, and that's why he shoulda retired after arguably winning the rematch, but Ali had no brains for self preservation. He actually believed the ALI shuffle would change boxing for good...
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Ali did change boxing in many ways. But he sure did go on too long. It is the warrior spirit that these men carry.Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post
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Really? Ali said his shuffle would change boxing?Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post
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... You've basically given me no limitations bud. You didn't even say world and you straight up said I can dictate who was champion as the answerer. Just, keep that in mind.
Eupolus in 388 BC bribed his way through boxing at the Olympics. He was found out and forced to build statues to honor Zeus.
Tom Spring inherited his belt from Tom Cribb, no fight needed. - Edit- Had to edit this bit out as I was wrong. I had mixed up two different stories about fifty years apart. My B.
Monte Masters getting to be a "champion" because he married the right broad then getting stripped for divorcing her is hilarious
Jem Ward, to this day, is considered the English HW champion from 1825ish to 1837ish. I say "ish" because he was crowned champion in a well known fixed fight, enforced his fixes with his gang and gang violence, held the HW title ransom, vacated and tried to fix the fight for the vacancy but one side refused, being a real fighter vs a stuntman the fighter killed the pawn in the fix. It got so bad the rich people of England had to go to America to foster a rival boxing industry which is why the US belt, rather than any English colony at the time, was the second belt to matter despite being about 100 years away from America rising as a world power.
He was so bad he forced the English to make a rival boxing industry in America. Did not win his belt legitly, did not defend his belt legitimately, did not lose his belt legitimately, he's just a gang leader playing boxing champion.
I might be the only fan, but I really do not think Max or Primo are legit. It's just that the IBU, or European boxing, was a ********ic system that voted for ranking. Italy and Germany, just by coincidence, just happen to have the only HWs in their history to be best in the world at the same time when ******* have the controlling voting block in the ratings board. Spain got it's best representation during the same time when, politically speaking, they were quite close with the other two but not as close as the other two with one another. No disrespect to germany, spain, or italy but that's sus as ****.
Jem is my pick, personally, if just one, but those are all some of my favs.Last edited by Marchegiano; 11-25-2024, 04:57 PM.
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I can't tell if my edit went through or not, looks like the site's glitching to me.
Either way, I was wrong about the Delaney bit, that's an entirely different story.
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Anthony Joshua has to be up there. He's champ who's lost plenty and hasn't even fought Fury or Wilder. Absolute rubbish.
Following him would be Carnera, Berbick and Valuev.
It's gotta be the current line up that fills the ranks of the worst HW's ever though.Last edited by them_apples; 11-25-2024, 09:02 PM.
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Joshua literally beat Charles Martin, Joseph Parker, and Andy Ruiz (in the rematch) for their respective heavyweight titles. So obviously he can't be the worst if he beat three other dudes that won heavyweight titles.Originally posted by them_apples View Post
Charles Martin won a vacant belt by default when his opponent randomly blew out a knee, then sold his belt to Joshua weeks later and quit in that fight. There's no debate, Charles Martin is the worst.Comment
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So in a fantasy round-robin tournament, involving all heavyweight champions... you believe Joshua would end up with the fewest wins?Originally posted by them_apples View PostComment
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no Charles Martin would lose more.Originally posted by Bundana View Post
I didnât know he was champion.
Birmane Stiverne is another
that being said though anyone with a pulse seems to be a danger to Joshua. For a champ I would see him losing to just about anyone with a punch at that level. Of the name Brand fighters on the big stage hailed as champions- Joshua is probably high in the list of catching the most losses in my book.
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