AJ's Place In History

[BKM-]

yeah but can you seriously imagine him winning a big fight again?? Not after that. I think we can sum up his career now. It'd be like ali fighting trevor berbeck. It was over after holmes but he had another fight. Not that ali is compared to joshua. I agree with the frank bruno comparison. It is over for aj and he is risking brain damage if he goes on.

He came back after the Ruiz loss, which was worse than this one. I say he needs another chance.

[BattlingNelson]

Sorry for making a detour here, but I don't post in NSB these days. I have a few remarks regarding the AJ fight:

1: In the historical perspective do you guys remember which other HW that got KO'ed after a failed lead uppercut? If you don't rewatch Douglas vs. Holyfield. That was my immidiate thought.

2: I heard Shane McGuigan commenting live about the advice AJ's corner gave before the finale round. He called the advice 'dangerous' and that AJ would get tagged with the Dubois right if he tried that uppercut. Amazing. Shane got that one!

3: AJ to me was hurt throughout the fight. His equilibrium left in round 1 and he never fully recovered.

[QueensburyRules]

I imagine, that in the future he will be seen as another Frank Bruno: Very popular, big, immensely strong puncher - who lacked the necessary chin and stamina to be the absolute best of his era.

- - Sorry, but AJ for all his flaws brought boxing back from the deathbed of PED use and cowardice of Blubber, unified the Titles, and then gave the Great Champion Wlad an opportunity to win back his titles illicitly won by Blubber in a fantastic slugfest.

Consecutive sell outs @Wembley while gutting the heavyweight stable of Haymon, and made a rare fortune doing it. HOF beckons...

[GhostofDempsey]

He was never going to be an ATG. He is an entertaining fighter but very limited and inconsistent. You never know what you're getting with AJ. One fight he looks great and in another he looks like the second coming of Carnera.

[max baer]

He was never going to be an ATG. He is an entertaining fighter but very limited and inconsistent. You never know what you're getting with AJ. One fight he looks great and in another he looks like the second coming of Carnera.

You always talk a lot of sense dempsey, I totally agree.

[Willow The Wisp]

Definitely not a top 20 atg in my opinion. As far as retiring g, that's up to him. He is still a player at heavyweight and can make some good money. Will he ever win a world championship again? Not likely.

Well, he might. The WBA, WBO, WBC, WBU, IBF, IBO, etc.? They could match him up with, say, Jared Anderson, Fabio Wardley, Guido Vianello or Justis Huni for a vacant title; and presto - a "Three-Time Heavyweight champion of the Worrrld"!!!!
After all, that's the business they're in.
Never say never.

Now, THE heavyweight title? The linial? That one's probably out of reach.

[Willow The Wisp]

He came back after the Ruiz loss, which was worse than this one. I say he needs another chance.

Q: Why was the Ruiz beating worse than this one?
Josh managed to knock Andy down, and finished on his feel; essentially quitting. In this fight he was knocked don in almost every round and was counted out while trying to stand on his head.

Though I agree. Boxing isn't like MMA and team sports - You can't get fired. He'll try to rebuild. There are still millions on the table for him. But an immediate rematch would be a mistake.

[BKM-]

Q: Why was the Ruiz beating worse than this one?
Josh managed to knock Andy down, and finished on his feel; essentially quitting. In this fight he was knocked don in almost every round and was counted out while trying to stand on his head.

Though I agree. Boxing isn't like MMA and team sports - You can't get fired. He'll try to rebuild. There are still millions on the table for him. But an immediate rematch would be a mistake.

You said it yourself: he essentially quit against dough boy.

This time he went out on his shield, a feat I didn't expect from him. A faceplant is horrendous for his career obviously, but I stand by his Ruiz loss being worse.

[Willie Pep 229]

Sorry for making a detour here, but I don't post in NSB these days. I have a few remarks regarding the AJ fight:

1: In the historical perspective do you guys remember which other HW that got KO'ed after a failed lead uppercut? If you don't rewatch Douglas vs. Holyfield. That was my immidiate thought.

2: I heard Shane McGuigan commenting live about the advice AJ's corner gave before the finale round. He called the advice 'dangerous' and that AJ would get tagged with the Dubois right if he tried that uppercut. Amazing. Shane got that one!

3: AJ to me was hurt throughout the fight. His equilibrium left in round 1 and he never fully recovered.

Watching Douglas miss that Upper-Cut was stomach turning.

It was obivious from the opening bell he wasn't ready for Holyfield.

After getting smacked about he tried to pull a rabbit out of his a-ss, as if to reach back to the Tyson punch.

Is was so sad to watch. He must have missed by a foot. Holyfield was just waiting for it.

It was a sad sight. F-uck I knew the damn punch was coming, forget Holyfield.

[QueensburyRules]

yeah but can you seriously imagine him winning a big fight again?? Not after that. I think we can sum up his career now. It'd be like ali fighting trevor berbeck. It was over after holmes but he had another fight. Not that ali is compared to joshua. I agree with the frank bruno comparison. It is over for aj and he is risking brain damage if he goes on.

- - Bruno was a flea compared to the Lion of AJ's record.

I've tried to tutor U monkeys on the importance of timelines with the compilation of record to no avail.

When AJ came to the US for his debut and his American opponent busted on 3 failed drug tests, more than a dozen ranked heavies including Blubber and Deyonce turned down record purses to fight him.

That is EPIC, so Fat Andy got the call the rest history whilst the usual emasculates her sing herstories in soprano.