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Originally posted by OldTerry View Post
Joe Louis was one of the best, but he is quoted (somewhere?) as saying he would never have been able to beat Liston. Liston is the ignored fighter when rating the top HW of all time because he lost to Ali and was never great afterwards. People seem to ignore the fact that he was, old, injured and out of shape in the first fight with Ali.Slugfester Willie Pep 229 like this.
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Originally posted by OldTerry View Post
Joe Louis was one of the best, but he is quoted (somewhere?) as saying he would never have been able to beat Liston. Liston is the ignored fighter when rating the top HW of all time because he lost to Ali and was never great afterwards. People seem to ignore the fact that he was, old, injured and out of shape in the first fight with Ali.
And joe was the best of his era and before not compared to eras after hisLast edited by Ascended; 09-17-2022, 02:54 PM.OldTerry likes this.
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Originally posted by moneytheman View Post
video shows joe would be destroyed by sonny floyd moved way better then joe and was destroyed by son so its obvious joe would be destroyed faster
And joe was the best of his era and before not compared to eras after hisSlugfester likes this.
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Originally posted by OldTerry View Post
Liston would have beat Louis, but I agree that Louis is still one of the five best all time heavyweights. Also moneytheman is not an idiot, he is simply a man who doesn't give Joe Louis the credit he deserves.
As far as money goes....he's a troll. He does not have the knowledge to discuss skills of fighters and what makes them great or not. When you're discussing boxing history and you dont possess these attributes, that in my opinion make one an idiot. It is what it is.Slugfester likes this.
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Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
Liston MAY have beat Louis. There are no assurances in a fantasy fight. We could discuss the different skill sets and styles of both fighter until we're blue in the face and can never know for sure. What we do know are that both are two of the greatest, most skilled and most powerful heavyweights ever.
As far as money goes....he's a troll. He does not have the knowledge to discuss skills of fighters and what makes them great or not. When you're discussing boxing history and you dont possess these attributes, that in my opinion make one an idiot. It is what it is.
And I already explained how joe moved and he would be destroyed by son when floyd moved better and was destroyed and a lhw like joe you crazy personLast edited by Ascended; 09-17-2022, 10:04 PM.
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Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
Liston MAY have beat Louis. There are no assurances in a fantasy fight. We could discuss the different skill sets and styles of both fighter until we're blue in the face and can never know for sure. What we do know are that both are two of the greatest, most skilled and most powerful heavyweights ever.
As far as money goes....he's a troll. He does not have the knowledge to discuss skills of fighters and what makes them great or not. When you're discussing boxing history and you dont possess these attributes, that in my opinion make one an idiot. It is what it is.
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Now that's an expert talking.
If you can't see that list as the litmus test for measuring the greatness of a fighter, then I feel sorry for you man, sorry for missing out on all of Moneytheman's insights.
P.S. Don't let the Christian guy, trying to call you out for calling Moneytheman an Idiot, get under your skin.
If Moneytheman is capable of more than he's just trolling us so screwing with him is fair - and if it turns out he is really slow of mind, we tried to help out early, and tried to engage him in a friendly helpful manner. He didn't want it.
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Originally posted by Willie Pep 229 View Post
Just don't know what's wrong with you Jab, here are the attributes you speak of . . . He is quite clear and insightful, all his opinion(s).
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Now that's an expert talking.
If you can't see that list as the litmus test for measuring the greatness of a fighter, then I feel sorry for you man, sorry for missing out on all of Moneytheman's insights.
P.S. Don't let the Christian guy, trying to call you out for calling Moneytheman an Idiot, get under your skin.
If Moneytheman is capable of more than he's just trolling us so screwing with him is fair - and if it turns out he is really slow of mind, we tried to help out early, and tried to engage him in a friendly helpful manner. He didn't want it.
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