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    #31
    Originally posted by Marchegiano View Post

    I wasn't talking about lineal bud, just how we certainly do not hand out belts for draws anymore.
    - -Champ don't default his belt on draws, he retains it.

    That Paris bout was a mudfest of the first order, no championship quality to it, none, and noone that counts says any different, NOONE, and Sully got tossed into the hoosegow until he could bail.

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      #32
      Originally posted by inexperiencedfan0907 View Post
      hello everyone! i am a 14-year old fan who is just getting into boxing. i've done a decent amount of research into it, and i've compiled my opinion list of the top 50 boxers ever, ranked. please note that a lot of this is probably not going to be very good or accurate, since i'm kinda new to this. every single boxer on my list fought before i was born lol.

      anyways, without further ado:

      Oliver's Terribly Inaccurate Top 50:
      1. Sugar Ray Robinson
      2. Muhammad Ali
      3. Joe Gans
      4. Willie Pep
      5. Benny Leonard
      6. Joe Louis
      7. Henry Armstrong
      8. Roberto Duran
      9. Ezzard Charles
      10. Rocky Marciano
      11. Lennox Lewis
      12. Manny Pacquiao
      13. Sam Langford
      14. Carlos Monzon
      15. Sugar Ray Leonard
      16. Harry Greb
      17. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
      18. Evander Holyfield
      19. Jimmy Wilde
      20. Gene Tunney
      21. Jack Dempsey
      22. Archie Moore
      23. Jack Johnson
      24. Joe Frazier
      25. George Foreman
      26. Marvelous Marvin Hagler
      27. Julio Cesar Chavez Sr.
      28. Sandy Saddler
      29. Thomas Hearns
      30. Oscar De La Hoya
      31. Sonny Liston
      32. Floyd Patterson
      33. Joe Calzaghe
      34. Larry Holmes
      35. Jersey Joe Walcott
      36. Pernell Whitaker
      37. Mickey Walker
      38. Stanley Ketchel
      39. Roy Jones Jr.
      40. Emile Griffith
      41. Eder Jofre
      42. Bernard Hopkins
      43. Jimmy McLarnin
      44. **** Tiger
      45. Marcel Cerdan
      46. Tony Canzoneri
      47. Salvador Sanchez
      48. Canelo Alvarez
      49. Jake LaMotta
      50. Barney Ross

      it definitely needs much work, so i am open to and encouraging suggestions and constructive criticism from you all. i tried my best, so i hope you like it. happy boxing to all!
      The names are there but I would swap some things around like Ali and Robinson,Floyd should be 13 at least.

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        #33
        Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

        - -Champ don't default his belt on draws, he retains it.

        That Paris bout was a mudfest of the first order, no championship quality to it, none, and noone that counts says any different, NOONE, and Sully got tossed into the hoosegow until he could bail.
        Sullivan wasn't defending the Dom belt, which is QB, nor the Ryan belt, which is an American title, he was fighting for the vacant world BK title and pulled a draw and came home as champion.

        The PG "dog collar" would be the defense of the title won from fighting Chuckles. The Corbett fight is the defense for the title won from fighting Dom.


        That said, everything you said goes right along with **** being very different today except for this weird claim John L was incumbent when he fought Chuckie to try to modernize what happened. No, he wasn't. He was the gloved champion and the american champion not the world HW BK champion. This instance has **** all to do with champions retaining their titles in draws. He wasn't the world BK champion. He was an American BK champion and the world gloved champion.

        If by some crazy magic Fury goes undisputed, then retires, and Beltran goes and fights for the vacant undisputed and gets a draw are you gonna claim Joey the champion now? No? Then quite trying to make the past fit the present and go learn what actually happened ya prick.
        JAB5239 JAB5239 likes this.

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          #34
          I noticed Pepper is bant. How'd that happen?

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            #35
            Originally posted by The Old LefHook View Post
            I noticed Pepper is bant. How'd that happen?
            I'm not - it's a movement (of one right now, me) - if everyone IDed themselves as banned we take away the ability of the mods to publically shame us. No one will know is actually banned or just taking a few days off by choice.

            Power to the posters.

            Change your description to 'Banned' today!

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              #36
              Originally posted by inexperiencedfan0907 View Post
              hello everyone! i am a 14-year old fan who is just getting into boxing. i've done a decent amount of research into it, and i've compiled my opinion list of the top 50 boxers ever, ranked. please note that a lot of this is probably not going to be very good or accurate, since i'm kinda new to this. every single boxer on my list fought before i was born lol.

              anyways, without further ado:

              Oliver's Terribly Inaccurate Top 50:
              1. Sugar Ray Robinson
              2. Muhammad Ali
              3. Joe Gans
              4. Willie Pep
              5. Benny Leonard
              6. Joe Louis
              7. Henry Armstrong
              8. Roberto Duran
              9. Ezzard Charles
              10. Rocky Marciano
              11. Lennox Lewis
              12. Manny Pacquiao
              13. Sam Langford
              14. Carlos Monzon
              15. Sugar Ray Leonard
              16. Harry Greb
              17. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
              18. Evander Holyfield
              19. Jimmy Wilde
              20. Gene Tunney
              21. Jack Dempsey
              22. Archie Moore
              23. Jack Johnson
              24. Joe Frazier
              25. George Foreman
              26. Marvelous Marvin Hagler
              27. Julio Cesar Chavez Sr.
              28. Sandy Saddler
              29. Thomas Hearns
              30. Oscar De La Hoya
              31. Sonny Liston
              32. Floyd Patterson
              33. Joe Calzaghe
              34. Larry Holmes
              35. Jersey Joe Walcott
              36. Pernell Whitaker
              37. Mickey Walker
              38. Stanley Ketchel
              39. Roy Jones Jr.
              40. Emile Griffith
              41. Eder Jofre
              42. Bernard Hopkins
              43. Jimmy McLarnin
              44. **** Tiger
              45. Marcel Cerdan
              46. Tony Canzoneri
              47. Salvador Sanchez
              48. Canelo Alvarez
              49. Jake LaMotta
              50. Barney Ross

              it definitely needs much work, so i am open to and encourage suggestions and constructive criticism from you all. i tried my best, so i hope you like it. happy boxing to all!
              That's really not bad at all! Stick around: You'll see FAR worse posted on this website lol. I think the worst I've ever seen was someone posted a top-25 all-time and every single fighter on the list was white

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                #37
                Originally posted by Willie Pep 229 View Post

                I'm not - it's a movement (of one right now, me) - if everyone IDed themselves as banned we take away the ability of the mods to publically shame us. No one will know is actually banned or just taking a few days off by choice.

                Power to the posters.

                Change your description to 'Banned' today!
                I am already bant often enough! Hell of an idea though.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by inexperiencedfan0907 View Post
                  hello everyone! i am a 14-year old fan who is just getting into boxing. i've done a decent amount of research into it, and i've compiled my opinion list of the top 50 boxers ever, ranked. please note that a lot of this is probably not going to be very good or accurate, since i'm kinda new to this. every single boxer on my list fought before i was born lol.

                  anyways, without further ado:

                  Oliver's Terribly Inaccurate Top 50:
                  1. Sugar Ray Robinson
                  2. Muhammad Ali
                  3. Joe Gans
                  4. Willie Pep
                  5. Benny Leonard
                  6. Joe Louis
                  7. Henry Armstrong
                  8. Roberto Duran
                  9. Ezzard Charles
                  10. Rocky Marciano
                  11. Lennox Lewis
                  12. Manny Pacquiao
                  13. Sam Langford
                  14. Carlos Monzon
                  15. Sugar Ray Leonard
                  16. Harry Greb
                  17. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
                  18. Evander Holyfield
                  19. Jimmy Wilde
                  20. Gene Tunney
                  21. Jack Dempsey
                  22. Archie Moore
                  23. Jack Johnson
                  24. Joe Frazier
                  25. George Foreman
                  26. Marvelous Marvin Hagler
                  27. Julio Cesar Chavez Sr.
                  28. Sandy Saddler
                  29. Thomas Hearns
                  30. Oscar De La Hoya
                  31. Sonny Liston
                  32. Floyd Patterson
                  33. Joe Calzaghe
                  34. Larry Holmes
                  35. Jersey Joe Walcott
                  36. Pernell Whitaker
                  37. Mickey Walker
                  38. Stanley Ketchel
                  39. Roy Jones Jr.
                  40. Emile Griffith
                  41. Eder Jofre
                  42. Bernard Hopkins
                  43. Jimmy McLarnin
                  44. **** Tiger
                  45. Marcel Cerdan
                  46. Tony Canzoneri
                  47. Salvador Sanchez
                  48. Canelo Alvarez
                  49. Jake LaMotta
                  50. Barney Ross

                  it definitely needs much work, so i am open to and encourage suggestions and constructive criticism from you all. i tried my best, so i hope you like it. happy boxing to all!
                  You know the characteristics of a great list? Someone willing to take the time to think carefully about who and why a fighter is on the list... You did an admirable job... I cannot even do a decent top ten much less a 50!

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