Those two times George Godfrey was champion

[travestyny]

Wills was offered a shot and his side came up short.

Since you hijacked this thread to be about Dempsey, I'm only gonna ask you one question.

When did that happen???? Wills was offered a shot and came up short? Riiiight.


Back to your regularly scheduled programming now.

[GhostofDempsey]

Since you hijacked this thread to be about Dempsey, I'm only gonna ask you one question.

When did that happen???? Wills was offered a shot and came up short? Riiiight.


Back to your regularly scheduled programming now.

Hijacked? Dempsey was mentioned in the opening of the thread. Don’t start your bullshyt with me again. Unless you’re looking to argue for four pages on yet another thread.

[GhostofDempsey]

Bud, let me say this as bluntly as possible. You are a cry baby. You literally cry in every section I see you in. Going to go to lounge to do some ****ing crying after this there too. See you in NSB it'll be for you to do some crying at some other folks there too. All you do is cry and take offense.

I didn't even write this to disparage Jack. If I had, I'd've just blamed Jack you dumb ass **** not Kearns and Daugherty, duh. If you want me to go through and replace Kearns with Dempsey that's fine. I can even postulate Kearns did it because Dempsey told them too rather than saying Kearns did **** on his own because he wasn't sure if Dempsey was coming back to boxing.

You're ****ing soft man. I'm sorry I make you cry, on accident, all the ****ing time.






I'm adding the Johnson story to my duck pond, thanks for that.

You were just crying to Siablo the other day in a thread, thinking he was picking on you. You are mentally unstable. Always trying to be the tough guy, the badass, but you’re soft in the head and you exposed your mental weakness in so many threads babbling on about threatening women and trying to fight some dude who was boning your wifey.

You and a couple of the other mental midgets on this forum are a broken record. Stuck on Dempsey from any angle you can play it. I’m not crying at all, just pointing out a pattern among you. Simple observation that everyone can see for themselves. I’m not the guy who will argue for 400 pages and five years just to get the last word like your buddy T-bag. Check your fake outrage at the door and wipe your soy-soaked tears on his shoulder.

[travestyny]

Hijacked? Dempsey was mentioned in the opening of the thread. Don’t start your bullshyt with me again. Unless you’re looking to argue for four pages on yet another thread.

It was a simple question. You are free to answer or do what you do best and duck it. Carry on.


And yes, hijacked. Because here you are again crying about Dempsey when, from what I can tell, this thread is about Godfrey. The simple mention of Dempsey put you into your usual crying fit.

[GhostofDempsey]

It was a simple question. You are free to answer or do what you do best and duck it. Carry on.


And yes, hijacked. Because here you are again crying about Dempsey when, from what I can tell, this thread is about Godfrey. The simple mention of Dempsey put you into your usual crying fit.

He mentions Dempsey’s name over 16 times in the opening of the thread...not about Dempsey doe...

Crying? You mean like you throwing tantrums for hundreds of pages and going on five years now? All so your feminine feelings can get the last word? I can post hundreds of examples of your “crying” if I really wanted to hijack this thread.

[travestyny]

He mentions Dempsey’s name over 16 times in the opening of the thread...not about Dempsey doe...

Crying? You mean like you throwing tantrums for hundreds of pages and going on five years now? All so your feminine feelings can get the last word? I can post hundreds of examples of your “crying” if I really wanted to hijack this thread.

All you had to say, instead of crying, was that you don't want to..or can't...answer the question. Carry on.

[Marchegiano]

You were just crying to Siablo the other day in a thread, thinking he was picking on you. You are mentally unstable. Always trying to be the tough guy, the badass, but you’re soft in the head and you exposed your mental weakness in so many threads babbling on about threatening women and trying to fight some dude who was boning your wifey.

You and a couple of the other mental midgets on this forum are a broken record. Stuck on Dempsey from any angle you can play it. I’m not crying at all, just pointing out a pattern among you. Simple observation that everyone can see for themselves. I’m not the guy who will argue for 400 pages and five years just to get the last word like your buddy T-bag. Check your fake outrage at the door and wipe your soy-soaked tears on his shoulder.

You mean I responded to his joke with better jokes?

I am a professional...so...yeah

This thread really doesn't have anything to do with Jack. You made it about Dempsey. I went out of my way to point out there was no real pressure on Jack Dempsey himself, you cried anyway.

You do a lot of projecting and making **** up to make your small self feel better about being such a crybaby. You're crying over **** I said to siablo, crying over some made up ****, and crying over your own perception of an insulting thread for a 20s boxer......you're just sad bud.

[GhostofDempsey]

All you had to say, instead of crying, was that you don't want to..or can't...answer the question. Carry on.

You got on here at 3:00AM just to say that? Petty.

[GhostofDempsey]

You mean I responded to his joke with better jokes?

I am a professional...so...yeah

This thread really doesn't have anything to do with Jack. You made it about Dempsey. I went out of my way to point out there was no real pressure on Jack Dempsey himself, you cried anyway.

You do a lot of projecting and making **** up to make your small self feel better about being such a crybaby. You're crying over **** I said to siablo, crying over some made up ****, and crying over your own perception of an insulting thread for a 20s boxer......you're just sad bud.

You laid out the groundwork to make this about Dempsey, just own it. This was another virtue signal for the usual suspects to come on here and shyt on Dempsey as usual, you blew the dog whistle and look who came running just like the lost puppy he is. Like tossing bloody fish in the water and the sharks come running. You knew what you were doing, now you want to gaslight me and tell me I'm the one who is a crybaby. You're a guy who loses his temper at the slightest slight. Other posters have had to point this out to you.

Carry on with your thread T-bagged is attempting to hijack into another Wills/Dempsey Vietnam.

[Willie Pep 229]

So firstly, obviously he's not a recognized champion so in either case it's to be taken as interesting not so much an argument for Godfrey to be recognized.

In about 1925 George Godfrey is pushing for a fight between himself and Jack Dempsey or Harry Wills. Both have squeezed him out.

Before I go on let me point out myself, George Godfrey was a part of the Jack Dempsey team. He was signed to Kearns, and Daugherty and was used in a few Dempsey camps to mixed results. It seems like they wanted him to seem unbeatable by any man not named Dempsey. So when either or both are doing press releases "pushing" for a Dempsey fight it's super respectful to Dempsey and more like George has earned the shot sort of stuff. There was an incident when they discharged Godfrey from camp for KO'ing Dempsey and ran a story that said it was Dempsey who had hurt Godfrey too much to cover Dempsey's image.

So in a very weird way it's not really a Dempsey fight per-se they want for George so much as a title fight, and, wanting someone they control already as the next champion.

Jimmy being an inside man does a series of press releases that basically say Jack Dempsey is retired and it's time to find a new champion.

Renault was another who had been pushing for a title fight and his block wasn't Wills but rather Godfrey. Beat Godfrey and we'll give you Jack kinda deal.

With Jack Dempsey not being sure he's coming back to boxing and Wills feeling no need to fight anyone but Jack Dempsey because he feels he has long proven he is the most legitimate contender, and Tunney looking to make his way to the title without fighting a black man there wasn't much room for a vacant fight between the top rated men of 1925.

What happens next is kind of dirty for all parties except the team behind Jack Dempsey.

They usurp Dempsey(C) by stating in the press their fighter has retired, then they rationalize away Tunney(2) and Wills(1) with the old they're being prima donas routine and set up Renault (3) with Godfrey (5) as a HW title fight.

No one cared, everyone saw Jack as the champion still and after a few short months the team had given up on Godfrey as champion because Jack had voiced interest in returning next year.



The next case is way shorter to explain:

in 1935, a clean decade later, Godfrey would beat Pierre Charles for the IBU version of the World title. He'd be stripped almost immediately for refusing to pay sanctioning fees and it wouldn't be long after that he'd retire.

In regards to the 1935 fight it looks like Godfrey didn't think it much of a title; one certainly not worth paying good money to claim.

BTW with IBU, what's the U stand for, International Boxing _____?

Union ?