Jess Willard v. Jack Johnson

[Marchegiano]

- -At 21 Ali was arguably KOed by Cooper who had to wear weight to make the 175+ division and beat up by little Doug Jones and booed heavily by fans.

Luck pre 21 had better results over Ibro top 10 champ JJOHNSON common comp.

FACT!

Seems U need some tutoring in timeline comparisons to be able to talk coherently on the subject.

Moreover Luck held a belt equivalent to any of todays ABCs and had agreed to a title challenge in Paris to JJOHNSON belt in his next fight.

Seems U need a major humanity check and major historical oversight revision or you'll always be coming out as a dolt in the conversation.

Just stating the obvious. Beam him him up Scotty for further tutoring...

I need no tutoring in semantics, small victories, or anecdotes that amount to nothing.


The White championship is akin to today's ABC is it? Jesus ****ing Christ. I don't feel the need to say anything. So, let's just let this float like the **** it is.

[QueensburyRules]

I need no tutoring in semantics, small victories, or anecdotes that amount to nothing.


The White championship is akin to today's ABC is it? Jesus ****ing Christ. I don't feel the need to say anything. So, let's just let this float like the **** it is.

- -Ignore color or U doomed to prejudice.

Luck had better results over JJ pretitle and title competition.

The Black and White Titles were superior then to this current mega title abcdefg inflation.

It's always who the fighter beats that counts...Duh!

[Marchegiano]

- -Ignore color or U doomed to prejudice.

Luck had better results over JJ pretitle and title competition.

The Black and White Titles were superior then to this current mega title abcdefg inflation.

It's always who the fighter beats that counts...Duh!

No bud, you're dumb as ****. I have nothing to say to you anymore. You stank this up properly on your own. The rest of this post is for readers. Other people who may be curious. I already know you're just going to play semantics that amounts to "nah-huh". So I really don't give a **** what you have to say.

Let me just clarify, for those who may be in the dark as to what QueenB has asserted.

The White World Championship is recognized as a legitimate World title by exactly no credible sources for the same exact reason why the Colored World Championship is not.

It really has nothing to do with how good they were, though the Colored champions are significantly better than any White champion ever was, but rather because these are promotional titles.

At best akin to Ring or Police Gazette, more closely relative to a Top Rank or Matchroom title if such a horribly useless thing did exist today.

Unlike the Colored champions no White champion was forbidden from the Lineal, IBU, or NSC, titles of the time. They simple were not good enough to attain a title that is akin to modern body titles.

Sam Langford, however, did have early body titles that are not recognized today as legitimate world titles because historians agree the lineal was the most legitimate at the time. If anyone named in this thread has titles akin to ABC belts, significantly higher than a promoter's trinket, it's Sam. He has plenty of promo titles too.

[QueensburyRules]

No bud, you're dumb as ****. I have nothing to say to you anymore. You stank this up properly on your own. The rest of this post is for readers. Other people who may be curious. I already know you're just going to play semantics that amounts to "nah-huh". So I really don't give a **** what you have to say.

Let me just clarify, for those who may be in the dark as to what QueenB has asserted.

The White World Championship is recognized as a legitimate World title by exactly no credible sources for the same exact reason why the Colored World Championship is not.

It really has nothing to do with how good they were, though the Colored champions are significantly better than any White champion ever was, but rather because these are promotional titles.

At best akin to Ring or Police Gazette, more closely relative to a Top Rank or Matchroom title if such a horribly useless thing did exist today.

Unlike the Colored champions no White champion was forbidden from the Lineal, IBU, or NSC, titles of the time. They simple were not good enough to attain a title that is akin to modern body titles.

Sam Langford, however, did have early body titles that are not recognized today as legitimate world titles because historians agree the lineal was the most legitimate at the time. If anyone named in this thread has titles akin to ABC belts, significantly higher than a promoter's trinket, it's Sam. He has plenty of promo titles too.

- -The People recognized the black and white titles and most didn't read U crusty holier than thou uncredentialed sources.

Yeah, U white gloved Sniffys always gonna look down on the people who made boxing the stuff of legend.

[JAB5239]

- -The People recognized the black and white titles and most didn't read U crusty holier than thou uncredentialed sources.

Yeah, U white gloved Sniffys always gonna look down on the people who made boxing the stuff of legend.

In one thread you scoff at the opinions and links to those with "credentials" and in another you complain about someone else doing the very same thing in you do. Talk about moving the goal posts to suit your agenda!

[billeau2]

- -Ignore color or U doomed to prejudice.

Luck had better results over JJ pretitle and title competition.

The Black and White Titles were superior then to this current mega title abcdefg inflation.

It's always who the fighter beats that counts...Duh!

Taking up the slack for "Phil Spector" Idiot? I had to put you on ignore...every time that computer flatulence you do that goes for a post, I had to take an Alka Seltzer.

A lot of guys do "******" but your little act of ****** and cryptic... Always telling others to get schooled when you cannot write a coherent post?

[QueensburyRules]

In one thread you scoff at the opinions and links to those with "credentials" and in another you complain about someone else doing the very same thing in you do. Talk about moving the goal posts to suit your agenda!

- -Not to be confused with U private predilections...link?

[billeau2]

Pop pop, fizz fizz, oh what a relief it is...