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Jess Willard v. Jack Johnson
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Originally posted by Marchegiano View PostYes, very good wins, especially when compared to ****ing Willard's nothing
Willard fought MUCH better competition. Smith, McCarty, Dempsey and an even more seasoned version of Moran.
See what happens when you take just 5 minutes to research a topic before shooting off. And not once did I go off topic ranting about barroom brawlers from 300 years ago that no one cares about.
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Originally posted by Rusty Tromboni View PostFunny an little skank like you can probably name ALL the boys you blew in High School, but can't name a single one of Johnson's "very good wins".
Willard fought MUCH better competition. Smith, McCarty, Dempsey and an even more seasoned version of Moran.
See what happens when you take just 5 minutes to research a topic before shooting off. And not once did I go off topic ranting about barroom brawlers from 300 years ago that no one cares about.
Smith kicked Willard's ass
Luther tied him and never beat anyone worth a damn.
Dempsey walked through him
So, um, what was Willard's good win?
****ing moron
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Originally posted by Marchegiano View PostThe only win you have named is a man who had just lost to JJ and fought no one of worth between.
Smith kicked Willard's ass
Luther tied him and never beat anyone worth a damn.
Dempsey walked through him
So, um, what was Willard's good win?
****ing moron
Johnson NEVER fought anyone as good as McCarty or Smith.
Willard didn't lose to a past-prime Middleweight while champion.
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Originally posted by Rusty Tromboni View PostWhen research, I meant actually review the details in full, not take a cursory glance and resort to your typical bluster in passing off the details you might've caught as actual understanding.
Johnson NEVER fought anyone as good as McCarty or Smith.
Willard didn't lose to a past-prime Middleweight while champion.
Given you never make any threads or posts beyond anything but you opinion it's reasonable to assume I have far more threads and posts covering these guys already stored here at BS.
Luther was ass.
Carpentier isn't even that good let alone Luther's sad ass and the sad ass tournament of clowns he beat.
Anyway, Tommy Burns was a better win for Jack than Jack was for Willard given Burnsie was a decade younger when he fell to Jack than Jack was when he fell to Willard.
27>37
And then, after Burnsie lost to JJ he went on to draw the man who killed Luther in the ring.
Willard never faced a Burns, never faced a prime anyone and won, didn't even beat an old man as great as the old men Jack beat when he was young. Fitz and Jeffries are both consistent top fives.
Willard was ****, never did anything but benefited from a racist society.
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Originally posted by Marchegiano View PostI already know all about the white champions.
Given you never make any threads or posts beyond anything but you opinion it's reasonable to assume I have far more threads and posts covering these guys already stored here at BS.
Luther was ass.
Carpentier isn't even that good let alone Luther's sad ass and the sad ass tournament of clowns he beat.
Anyway, Tommy Burns was a better win for Jack than Jack was for Willard given Burnsie was a decade younger when he fell to Jack than Jack was when he fell to Willard.
27>37
And then, after Burnsie lost to JJ he went on to draw the man who killed Luther in the ring.
Willard never faced a Burns, never faced a prime anyone and won, didn't even beat an old man as great as the old men Jack beat when he was young. Fitz and Jeffries are both consistent top fives.
Willard was ****, never did anything but benefited from a racist society.
And to think people oppose partial birth ********.
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Originally posted by Willie Pep 229 View PostI am not sure I agree. IMO a 1903-04 Jeffries vs. Johnson is a very different fight than their 1910 go.
I guess the best match-up would have been Jeffries staying active until 1907 and the two meeting that year.
No one questioned the outcome or the fact that Johnson had proven himself the better man. Tellingly, Jeffries himself admitted he could never have beaten Johnson, even in his prime. “I could never have whipped Johnson at my best,?he said. “I couldn’t have hit him. No, I couldn’t have reached him in a thousand years.?br />
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