Who could beat a prime George Foreman?

[brownpimp88]

and of those 20 how many were any good ?....2, 3 maybe

brennan, miske, the guy with a 41-33 record, gibbons, carpentier and firpo, yeah that equals garbage. You wont get it, its pointless even trying to discuss this with you.

[joelouisbarrow]

Ali beat liston, foreman, frazier, patterson,norton, foster, terrell and many other good fighters. There is no doubt he is better than joe louis.

ali made a lot of fighters look good...norton was nothing special, foster was just a light heavy, liston was old and finished, foreman was a school ground bully, patterson was old ( and ancient in fight 2 )...

[brownpimp88]

ali made a lot of fighters look good...norton was nothing special, foster was just a light heavy, liston was old and finished, foreman was a school ground bully, patterson was old ( and ancient in fight 2 )...

Dude, what are you doing? Are you suggesting joe louis beat better comp. This is a joke, there is a reason why ali is #1. I dont know, cuz he fought better comp.

[joelouisbarrow]

Damn thats prolly better than my list, props. Both of us realize that jack johnson and jack dempsey had extremely weak competiton, the others just wont get it, its sad.

whats sad is your lack of respect of the fighters of old...your like a lot of know-it-all kids...beligerent and always right

[joelouisbarrow]

Dude, what are you doing? Are you suggesting joe louis beat better comp. This is a joke, there is a reason why ali is #1. I dont know, cuz he fought better comp.

actually this wasnt an ali/louis argument...it was your audacity at saying dempsey was a bum cause of his lack of opposition ( in your opinion )

[joelouisbarrow]

heres a name for you to mull over...mike tyson....iron mike...the man who ranked dempsey as one of THE all time greats...a man who admired dempseys ferocity AND even modelled himself after him...i think i`ll take the word of a fighter who was champion of the world before you were probably even born

[K-DOGG]

No he's got #1 and #2 right!

Well written K-Dogg you make logical and justifiable points for each man. Our lists are a little different but I like that you have Foreman and Liston in there.

Foreman has the distinction of scoring KO's over top ten contenders from four different decades, the 60's (Chuvalo) 70's (Frazier, Norton, Lyle) 80's (Cooney) and 90's (Moorer).

Thanks bro. After all of this debate I decided to just explain "why" my list is what it is. Whether someone agrees or disagrees, I have my logic and can explain why. Just wanted to put it out so all could see, so I wouldn't have to keep explaining stuff. lol!!!


Oh, btw, Foreman stopped Cooney in 1990.

[hemichromis]

whats sad is your lack of respect of the fighters of old...your like a lot of know-it-all kids...beligerent and always right

67-74 was the golden era of boxing dominated by three of the best ever heavys (foreman ali frazier) and supported by several top 20 fighters

no other era has come close

tyson had comaprably weak competition
as did:
dempsey
lewis
marciano
louis
holmes

those are all top ten (all-time) rated fighters but they didn;t fight other great fighters who weren't old or out of their prime.

for this reason i have ali first followed by louis then foreman etc etc

[K-DOGG]

thanks k-dogg..a really lucid and incise description of your top 10...best post ive read on this forum as of yet..though you seem to have your # 1 & 2 the wrong way round

Thank you. I enjoyed writing it.

[brownpimp88]

actually this wasnt an ali/louis argument...it was your audacity at saying dempsey was a bum cause of his lack of opposition ( in your opinion )

He just doesnt deserve to be in the top 10, neither does jack johnson. All the other guys in the top 10 beat better comp and before u start an argument on tyson fighting weak comp, let me put it in this way.

Michael spinks> gibbons and carpentier
38 year old larry holmes> willard and firpo
Tony Tucker and Trevor Berbick> brennan and miske