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    Originally posted by dr filth View Post
    i've thought about this one alot. Big Len is definitley skilled enough to outbox foreman and keep him trapped on the outside, eating jabs and big right hands. the only problem with lewis is he's a slow starter, and foreman was a fast starter. lewis also has a questionable chin, if he can get through the first 5 rounds he'd beat foreman, if not he gets knocked out quick
    That about sums it up. If Rachman and McCall can one shot Lewis then a Foreman barrage can certainly send Lewis down and out.

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      Originally posted by SABBATH View Post
      What makes you think that Baer would be confident after getting hit by a big powerful heavy puncher like Foreman when he mentally folded before he was even ****in' hit against Louis?

      Kid, you can't keep filling in the blanks with romatic idalistic versions of older fighters just because you like that particular era.

      A year after losing to Louis, Baer was beaten by Art Oliver who was making his pro debut, yet you're using the Lyle fight as a reference point to how Baer might succeed against Foreman? You do recall Foreman getting up from a face-first KD (not too many heavyweights are gonna get up from that type of KD) to 10 count Lyle? When did Baer EVER ONCE in his 84 fight career display that type of heart or ability to come back from the brink of defeat? I'll answer that for you. NEVER.

      Baer's best names on his win resume are Carnera, Schmeling and Galento.

      The rest of Baer's bigger name opponents like Jim Braddock, Ernie Schaff, Tommy Loughran, Johnny Risko, Paolino Uzcudun, King Levinsky, all went the distance with Baer and with the exception of Levinsky all of them defeated "The Clown Prince". Only Schaff weighed over 200 lbs.

      Which Baer are we talking about standing up to and KO'ing Foreman? The one that was never seen or the one that consistantly lost to fighters not even close to Foreman?

      You do know Baer KILLED a man with his punches. While I would maby favor Foreman, Baer DOES have a chance.

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        Originally posted by K-DOGG View Post
        I'll be the first to admit that that situation surrounding Holyfields first reign were less than ideal. He did do what he had to do. I'm not saying Holyfield isn't great....he is; but I feel his losses in his prime to Bowe and Moorer hurt him immensely. Those were the fist two real top 10 opponents he defended against....and he lost.

        Yes, the comeback was impressive as hell, beating Tyson was very impressive, even if that Tyson was overrated and that Holyfield was underrated, as he was believed shot; but that's just not enough for me to move him into the Top Ten when there are so many other fighters who did better than he. Holy is just outside of my personal Top Ten, near Charles, Frazier, Jeffries, and Walcott.

        When will Holyfield get his credit??????????? You do recall Holyfield also BEAT Bowe and Moorer right? Holyfield should be around 6 or 7 on any top ten.

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          Originally posted by K-DOGG View Post
          I'll be the first to admit that that situation surrounding Holyfields first reign were less than ideal. He did do what he had to do. I'm not saying Holyfield isn't great....he is; but I feel his losses in his prime to Bowe and Moorer hurt him immensely. Those were the fist two real top 10 opponents he defended against....and he lost.

          Yes, the comeback was impressive as hell, beating Tyson was very impressive, even if that Tyson was overrated and that Holyfield was underrated, as he was believed shot; but that's just not enough for me to move him into the Top Ten when there are so many other fighters who did better than he. Holy is just outside of my personal Top Ten, near Charles, Frazier, Jeffries, and Walcott.
          If joe frazier and holyfield arent in ur top 10, then to me ur just a guy that looks at legacy rather than how good they really are. Its so easy to diss marciano's padded legacy, tunney doesnt belong in the top 10 at heavy, but i know he is in ur list, which is laughable. You probably have dempsey and johnson on ur list too. They are in ur top 10 even though thier era relied on having middleweights and light heavyweights as the top contenders, go figure.

          See when i watch fighters, i look at everything. When you watch some of ur favourite fighters, you will notice weaknesses but you wont really talk about it on forums. Gene Tunney doesnt belong in top 10, why is he in ur list? Cuz you were impressed with what he did at 175 and how he beat a middleweight 3 times, lol.


          To me this is how it goes:

          Tyson did enough to make top 10
          Lennox did enough to make top 10
          Holyfield did enough to make top 10


          Bowe on the other hand is an underachiever, Dempsey drew the colour line which prevented the real challengers from getting title shots. Jack johnson was too busy getting dropped by a middleweight.

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            Originally posted by brownpimp88 View Post
            Jack johnson was too busy getting dropped by a middleweight.

            He got right back up and knocked that middleweights teeth right out of his mouth to.

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              Originally posted by Mike Tyson77 View Post
              You do know Baer KILLED a man with his punches.
              Yes I'm well aware of Frankie Campbell being killed in the ring against Baer. I'm also aware of Gaetan Hart, Boom Boom Mancini, Lupe Pintor, Wilford Scypion etc...who killed men with their punches and I wouldn't favour them against Foreman either.

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                Wow, I just had to read this whole thread from page 1 again since I've been busy with finals to study for.

                I learned so much in this thread. Foreman seems so much less "invincible" than I had him in my mind.

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                  Originally posted by KidDynamite86 View Post
                  Foreman seems so much less "invincible" than I had him in my mind.
                  And yet, I'm betting that in your updated and current mindset, Foreman's still much more "invincible" than he is in my own.

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                    Originally posted by Yogi View Post
                    And yet, I'm betting that in your updated and current mindset, Foreman's still much more "invincible" than he is in my own.
                    lol

                    Guys who are strong, fast, or both always tend to seem invincible...

                    Thats why you see people always saying Foreman, Ali, or Tyson will win against anyone....

                    Life's troublesome...Though Foreman, Tyson, as well as many will always have "a punchers chance"......

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                      Originally posted by RockyMarcianofan00 View Post
                      lol

                      Guys who are strong, fast, or both always tend to seem invincible...

                      Thats why you see people always saying Foreman, Ali, or Tyson will win against anyone....

                      Life's troublesome
                      ...Though Foreman, Tyson, as well as many will always have "a punchers chance"......

                      Wow I didn't even realize I typed Life's Troublesome....LOL my current mindset is alittle depressing to say the least...

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