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    #21
    Originally posted by AddiX View Post
    And **********s still have no better options.

    All these years later, all that complaining, and nothing still.
    The best option is to repeal it and go back to what we had.

    As was pointed out to you, everything was made worse (higher) by *****care. Common sense says repeal it and you reap instant benefits (savings).

    Of course common sense is lost on you ********.

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      #22
      Originally posted by JimRaynor View Post
      The profits made by health insurance companies back in 2008 prior to *****care was 8 billion, in 2015 they were 15 billion, so you tell me which program benefits the insurance companies.
      Cruz pointed that out in last night's debate. It was telling that Sanders couldn't address that fact.

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        #23
        I've got excellent insurance through work. It's very common in the high tech industry as it's so competitive.

        Despite that, I did not see my promised $2500/yr savings. Mine went up, albeit by a small amount.

        When folks like myself with the best plans are getting hit (albeit lightly), you know those with lesser plans are really getting blasted.

        Like Cruz pointed out in last night's debate, the counties with the worst premium and deductible increases just happened to be alot of the counties that flipped from ***** to Trump.

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          #24
          Originally posted by Gentblue View Post
          Personally I'm for Medicare 1 but I favor making cuts to the budget first.... to all the brits how is the NHS system y'all have??
          its in a bit of a crisis at the moment but its pretty good really. For the vast vast majority if you need something done urgently youll get it done and you dont have pay for it other than taxes. I couldnt imagine having to pay thousands of pounds for an operation.

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            #25
            I have Kaiser insurance and All I know is my co-pay has gone up $15 in the last 3years to $30 a doctors visit. When I asked the ladies at Kaiser why its doubled, they said thank *****care.

            But TBH, although I dont have $15 to just throw away, I dont see the price increase as anything out of the ordinary. I can recall in the mid 2000's paying under or around $5 for a combo at a fast food place, now the same combo is about $9. Im sure by the time I retire, I will be paying $50 a co-pay and $20 for that same combo. I just hope my hourly pay increases too!
            Last edited by Boxfan83; 02-08-2017, 12:18 PM.

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              #26
              Originally posted by muzzo View Post
              The NHS is free to all in theory though anyone that earns over £10k a yr or so gets a percentage taken off thier salary automatically to pay for this,its called National Insurance,all hospital services free,Doctor appointments are free and in Scotland atleast prescriptions are subsidised by the Scottish goverment .Thats the jist of it but is by no means perfect,waiting times in Accident&Emergency and other hospital appoinments etc you can be waiting a long time so rich people might choose go private if available.
              That sounds like a good idea for the US.

              Since it seems the whole jist of it is to protect the private sector (Trump's general idea I believe, unless I'm wrong).

              That would enable the poor to get health care in the states affordably (truly affordable) while the rich can opt to go private and have nothing to complain about (on the surface).

              Every system has it's flaws but it would be a solid start in the US.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Boxfan83 View Post
                I have Kaiser insurance and All I know is my co-pay has gone up $15 in the last 3years to $30 a doctors visit. When I asked the ladies at Kaiser why its doubled, they said thank *****care.

                But TBH, although I dont have $15 to just throw away, I dont see the price increase as anything out of the ordinary. I can recall in the mid 2000's paying under or around $5 for a combo at a fast food place, now the same combo is about $9. Im sure by the time I retire, I will be paying $50 a co-pay and $20 for that same combo. I just hope my hourly pay increases too!

                Kaiser is the best insurance in my opinion. I've had it my whole life up until I joined the service. Then I automatically got tri-care. But I still favor Kaiser. I may as well go back to it.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by F l i c k e r View Post
                  Kaiser is the best insurance in my opinion. I've had it my whole life up until I joined the service. Then I automatically got tri-care. But I still favor Kaiser. I may as well go back to it.
                  Really? I dont care for Kaiser tbh, to conservative (non-politically speaking) imo. BUT even though my co-pay is high, my monthy payment is very very low so I cant complain to much.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by JimRaynor View Post
                    I want to give you folks here and in other countries an idea of how much of a disaster this thing is, and why it needs to be repealed as soon as possible. Here is an example of a Bronze package plan (which is the starting plan) for a young single male who makes 45K+.

                    Your premium (monthly payment) is on average $258.

                    Your deductible (amount you have to pay before *****care kicks in for bills) is $7,150.

                    So what this means is that not only do you pay $258 a month ($3,096 a year), but God forbid you land in the hospital you will still have to pay an additional $7,150 before your healthcare kicks in, so if you land in the hospital in December that's means you will pay over $10,000 before *****care starts paying for health care.

                    Now say you make $25,000 a year, well your monthly premium will be about $50 a month, but your deductible is still $7,150! You still will need to pay over $7000 before you get serious assistance.
                    *****care is a complete and utter joke.
                    I cannot wait till they repeal this sh**

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by JimRaynor View Post
                      I want to give you folks here and in other countries an idea of how much of a disaster this thing is, and why it needs to be repealed as soon as possible. Here is an example of a Bronze package plan (which is the starting plan) for a young single male who makes 45K+.

                      Your premium (monthly payment) is on average $258.

                      Your deductible (amount you have to pay before *****care kicks in for bills) is $7,150.

                      So what this means is that not only do you pay $258 a month ($3,096 a year), but God forbid you land in the hospital you will still have to pay an additional $7,150 before your healthcare kicks in, so if you land in the hospital in December that's means you will pay over $10,000 before *****care starts paying for health care.

                      Now say you make $25,000 a year, well your monthly premium will be about $50 a month, but your deductible is still $7,150! You still will need to pay over $7000 before you get serious assistance.
                      Jim

                      What state are you in? If you live in a state where a ********** Govenor operated to block the AHCA from being implemented, that is likely why the rate is so high.

                      Without the AHCA, the rate would be about 20% higher. WIthout the AHCA, without insurance, that $7,150 deductible could be a bill in excess of $150k.

                      At least present a fair and accurate assessment.

                      Have you noticed how much Trump has backed off the repeal and replace talk? From your perspective, why has he pulled back?

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