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    Originally posted by Richard Richardson View Post

    officers in the force said he was lying in court.... watch the candace owens documentary, you might learn something
    I'm not watching anything from Karen Owens. She's full of shlt and as dumb as the magat cult.


    She apparently didn't teach you much since you were going around saying the autopsy claimed it wasn't a homicide. What happened? She forgot to inform you?
    Last edited by travestyny; 05-03-2025, 08:39 AM.

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      Originally posted by travestyny View Post

      I'm not watching anything from Karen Owens. She's full of shlt and as dumb as the magat cult.


      She apparently didn't teach you much since you were going around saying the autopsy claimed it wasn't a homicide. What happened? She forgot to inform you?
      i got it mixed up the first report said drugs were a contributing factor and then funnily enough the second one (employed by the family) said they werent... that doesnt change anything that i have spoke about since.

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        Originally posted by Richard Richardson View Post

        i got it mixed up the first report said drugs were a contributing factor and then funnily enough the second one (employed by the family) said they werent... that doesnt change anything that i have spoke about since.
        What you have spoke about since makes no sense. Claiming that the belief that a suspect is lying when he says he can't breathe somehow minimizes responsibility for killing him by kneeling on his neck even after he has passed out is a dumb argument.


        Do ya think he should have believed him after he passed out, or you have some other excuse?
        Last edited by travestyny; 05-03-2025, 08:56 AM.

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          Originally posted by travestyny View Post

          What you have spoke about since makes no sense. Claiming that the belief that a suspect is lying when he says he can't breathe somehow minimizes responsibility for killing him by kneeling on his neck even after he has passed out is a dumb argument.


          Do ya think he should have believed him after he passed out, or you have some other excuse?
          there are two options, floydy was lying about not being able to breathe, or he was having an acute respiratory episode PRIOR to the restraint... both of them options are relevant to the outcome

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            How are you guys still going back and forth over this beaten to death topic?

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              Originally posted by travestyny View Post

              You claimed the medical expert who did the autopsy claimed he was overdosing? Can I see the quotation?
              The original report said drugs were a contributing factor.

              Neck restraints were allowed by police department policy and defined as a non-deadly force option. They were allowed to be done with the legs not just the arms.



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                Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post

                The original report said drugs were a contributing factor.

                Neck restraints were allowed by police department policy and defined as a non-deadly force option. They were allowed to be done with the legs not just the arms.


                That's very different from saying he was actively overdosing. I'm guessing you just made that up.

                I already gave you the quotations. That's not what he was doing. He was never trained to use is legs for that purpose, and neck restraints aren't used after a suspect is already cuffed and under control.

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                  Originally posted by Richard Richardson View Post

                  there are two options, floydy was lying about not being able to breathe, or he was having an acute respiratory episode PRIOR to the restraint... both of them options are relevant to the outcome
                  False. The medical examiners told you what it was.

                  You believed them when you thought they fit your agenda, but not now that you found out that you are wrong

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                    Originally posted by travestyny View Post

                    False. The medical examiners told you what it was.

                    You believed them when you thought they fit your agenda, but not now that you found out that you are wrong
                    the first one said drugs were a factor... the second one doesnt even count it was arranged by floydys family

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                      Originally posted by Richard Richardson View Post

                      the first one said drugs were a factor... the second one doesnt even count it was arranged by floydys family
                      And they both said it was a homicide. I'm happy we finally got to the answer.

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