Bottom Line. Do you think GGG can beat Canelo at 155?

[Craveman]

155 is middleweight, 160 is the middleweight limit. WBC will sanction the fight as long as it's between 155-160. If Canelo/GBP offer Canelo a fight at 155(which is the start of middleweight, not a made up weight), and GGG decline, that's on them.

Exactly, that's why they should allow Golovkin to fight at 160lbs. Instead of consistently fighting at 155lbs, hence becoming commonly known as Caneloweight as they say...

[Anton Chigurh]

Little G doesn't really want to face any challenge at any weight. He'll probably cry about the Top 100 fighters at 160 avoiding him as an excuse to make a rematch with Gabriel Rosado.

[Szef]

155 is middleweight, 160 is the middleweight limit. WBC will sanction the fight as long as it's between 155-160. If Canelo/GBP offer Canelo a fight at 155(which is the start of middleweight, not a made up weight), and GGG decline, that's on them.

It's like this: 154, 160,168 etc

It is a made up weight class when 155 is the maximum weight your opponent can fight you at. But let's not argue semantics here, you know exactly what the issue in this situation is.

[-Kev-]

It's like this: 154, 160,168 etc

It is a made up weight class when 155 is the maximum weight your opponent can fight you at. But let's not argue semantics here, you know exactly what the issue in this situation is.

It's not a made up weight when that is the maximum weight your opponent can fight you in, it's just called a catchweight, but it's going to be sanctioned because it's still within Middleweight, per WBC's rules. Like Pac vs Cotto at 145 where the WBO sanctioned it, Pac vs Marg at 150 where the WBC sanctioned it, Cotto vs Martinez/Geale at 159/157 where WBC sanctioned it. It will be no different here, WBC will sanction a 155lb catchweight because it's still Middleweight. It's up to GGG to accept.

If the WBC sees GBP/DLH do their part and offer the fight and try, but K2/GGG decline, then I mean what's going to happen? Personally I think that Canelo will give up 156-157 maybe, I can see that. 155 is the start of negotiations, maybe he goes up a couple of pounds. But if he doesn't budge from 155, WBC can't do anything because that is MW and they're going on record saying 155 is fine and they will accept it, but ultimately it's their problem (GBP and K2), not theirs.

[Scipio2009]

Do boxers not have ambition anymore? Don't nelo want to become a top ten p4p fighter? He isn't at the moment but if he beats GGG at 160 he will be obviously.

But GGG has made it clear he wants to become the best 160 guy ever, so he can't be that by fighting at 155 or 168! You got to prove u can beat him at 160. GGG isn't interested if you can beat him at 155. GGG never claimed to be the best at 155.
GGG don't want to be the goat at 155 caneloweight

What has Golovkin done to make him a valuable scalp for someone to pick off, outside of having three years of HBO trying to convince the world that Golovkin is the boogeyman? If Alvarez were to show up an rout Golovkin, any objective look at things would leave people seeing Golovkin as a hypejob who was simply knocking off tailor-made opposition until he ran into a real one (Alvarez beat Cotto, beat Lara, beat Trout, stopped a rugged Angulo, and KTFO of James Kirkland).

The "best 160 guy ever" story is bull****; if that were true, he wouldn't have spent all that time waiting on Cotto, and all the time now waiting on Alvarez (with neither guy ever mentioning any interest in fighting at 160), especially with HBO being willing to put $2m budgets behind his fights (funny how Golovkin isn't willing to take shorter money to entice better opposition ever).

You don't line up Willie Monroe Jr if you're trying to be a great middleweight (no disrespect to Monroe Jr).

[HeroBando]

155 is middleweight, 160 is the middleweight limit. WBC will sanction the fight as long as it's between 155-160. If Canelo/GBP offer Canelo a fight at 155(which is the start of middleweight, not a made up weight), and GGG decline, that's on them.

It's mostly on Canelo, he gets to be stripped of his belt and emasculated. GGG comes out with one more belt.

[Szef]

It's not a made up weight when that is the maximum weight your opponent can fight you in, it's just called a catchweight, but it's going to be sanctioned because it's still within Middleweight, per WBC's rules. Like Pac vs Cotto at 145 where the WBO sanctioned it, Pac vs Marg at 150 where the WBC sanctioned it, Cotto vs Martinez/Geale at 159/157 where WBC sanctioned it. It will be no different here, WBC will sanction a 155lb catchweight because it's still Middleweight. It's up to GGG to accept.

If the WBC sees GBP/DLH do their part and offer the fight and try, but K2/GGG decline, then I mean what's going to happen? Personally I think that Canelo will give up 156-157 maybe, I can see that. 155 is the start of negotiations, maybe he goes up a couple of pounds. But if he doesn't budge from 155, WBC can't do anything because that is MW and they're going on record saying 155 is fine and they will accept it, but ultimately it's their problem (GBP and K2), not theirs.

What the hell does this essay has to do with what I said?

You know what the issue is, Canelo seems to be afraid to fight men of his own size and acts like a spoiled little ***** when he actually has to fight them. That dude and his 155 pounds demands are a joke, and anybody with brain knows it.

Spare me this A side, B side bull****, If he was confident in his ability he would be fighting a MW right now in order to prepare for GGG, not Amir ****ing Khan.

[joseph5620]

I don't believe he can make the weight healthy.

I don't either.

[-Kev-]

It's mostly on Canelo, he gets to be stripped of his belt and emasculated. GGG comes out with one more belt.

Okay, we will see, if Canelo/GBP offer them a fight and they decline because they don't want to fight below 160 limit, we will see if the WBC compensates the crybaby B-sides that don't want to play their B-side role like everyone else. Worse comes to worse and WBC uncharacteristically disciplines Canelo by stripping the belt from him despite making an offer to K2, it will still be a Winky Wright moment for GGG for missing out on a huge PPV, big money, and a chance to move up in his career. So he gets the vacant WBC title and continues his 160 run, yeah then what, it will mean absolutely nothing in his career. Any top contender can get a title nowadays, there's 4 titles, it means nothing. The fighters make the title what they are. Canelo winning the title from Cotto will mean a lot more than GGG getting the title handed to him like when he fought Milton Nunez or whoever it was that got him the WBA belt, Nilson Julio Tapia, who the hell really cares, it was a hand out.

[ironmike2012]

It would definitely make it Canelo's fight to lose.

GGG is in his 30's and Canelo is his 20's, not the same to drop extra weight.

I would like to see the fight, but I don't want a fighter to have to drop 5 pounds and possibly make him weak like Chad Dawson was against Ward (Dawson called out Ward).
Canelo should be able to move up, if not drop the belt and go back down and fight at 154, 155 is not a weight division.