Bottom Line. Do you think GGG can beat Canelo at 155?

[j0zef]

Well Canelo detractors say he is big and that he weighs 170 on fight, and that he is a MW. So if he's the same size as GGG, and Canelo can make 155, then why can't GGG make it if they are the same size? I mean that is rhetorical question, they are not actually the same type of weight. GGG is a lean muscle 160, Canelo would need to gain more muscle to get to 160 healthy(not bloated). When they weigh 170 on fight night, they are a different 170, Canelo has more water weight, Golovkin has more muscle.



Lately it has been 170lbs. It was 173 for Rubio, 170 against Monroe, for Lemieux he was 170 according to HBO commentators.

Canelo's 8 years younger.

While Golovkin probably does carry 160 easier since he trains year around and doesn't fluctuate his weight as much, saying that Canelo at 160 would be bloated is simply incorrect. Look at his match with Cotto - many reporters commented that he looked skeletal and that they were worried whether or not he can make the weight healthy.

He's a young guy who's always been bigger than his opponents - he's been practicing draining for years.

[-Kev-]

i corrected you there.

Name the sources for the 150k figure and 900k figure.

[-Kev-]

Because Canelo's been fighting at that weight for a while and never above, his body's used to it. More then likely GGG would be severely weakened by that kind of weight drain.
Do you think GB and Canelo would ask for a catch weight if it wasn't going to make a difference?

Oh Canelo's body is used to 155, and GGG would be weakened. So you want Canelo to gain the weight, and move up from where he is comfortable? See that's where people are not understanding. Canelo isn't going to give GGG the advantage, but GGG's fans don't want GGG to give Canelo the advantage, they want the other way around. Mark my works, it's not going to happen. If GGG wants the fight, he's going to have to fight Canelo with that disadvantage. He wants the big fight, big money, the titles, the huge PPV numbers, then give in to Canelo's demands like every other B-side before him did when trying to make big fights. If GGG doesn't accept the terms, this will be a big Winky Wright moment for him. For Canelo, he'll be fine, he doesn't need anyone to be the biggest star after Pac retires. His career is set, his role in boxing is concrete, he will be the star of boxing, he's already #2.

[Szef]

Oh Canelo's body is used to 155, and GGG would be weakened. So you want Canelo to gain the weight, and move up from where he is comfortable? See that's where people are not understanding. Canelo isn't going to give GGG the advantage, but GGG's fans don't want GGG to give Canelo the advantage, they want the other way around. Mark my works, it's not going to happen. If GGG wants the fight, he's going to have to fight Canelo with that disadvantage. He wants the big fight, big money, the titles, the huge PPV numbers, then give in to Canelo's demands like every other B-side before him did when trying to make big fights. If GGG doesn't accept the terms, this will be a big Winky Wright moment for him. For Canelo, he'll be fine, he doesn't need anyone to be the biggest star after Pac retires. His career is set, his role in boxing is concrete, he will be the star of boxing, he's already #2.

Firstable, 155 is not an actual weight class, so this 'he's comfortable at that weight' BS holds no merit. He might be boxing's biggest star, but he's not big enough to create his own weight class.

Secondable, Canelo is the MW champ (on paper at least) Golovkin is his mandatory. Fighting at the full MW limit isn't giving your opponent an advantage, it's how things work in boxing. Or at least used to work.

As for Canelo not needing Golovkin I don't think that's entirety true. Other than him, who else he has to fight? Cotto he already beat, other Middleweights aren't PPV worthy opponents. Golovkin is a star and one of the most known fighters around that weight class. Even Canelos hardcore Mexican fans aren't that ****** and will keep buying his BS PPV fights for only so long.

[Scipio2009]

Yes or no?

I think Canelo beats Golovkin at 155 and at 160, so wasn't sure how to answer the survey, tbh. Still, Alvarez knows that he can make 155 just fine and doesn't really give a **** if Golovkin can make the weight fine, since his camp ran their mouth about 154-168; no different than Floyd putting it to him after he ran his mouth about coming down to 152 to fight.

[Craveman]

Well Canelo detractors say he is big and that he weighs 170 on fight, and that he is a MW. So if he's the same size as GGG, and Canelo can make 155, then why can't GGG make it if they are the same size? I mean that is rhetorical question, they are not actually the same type of weight. GGG is a lean muscle 160, Canelo would need to gain more muscle to get to 160 healthy(not bloated). When they weigh 170 on fight night, they are a different 170, Canelo has more water weight, Golovkin has more muscle.



Lately it has been 170lbs. It was 173 for Rubio, 170 against Monroe, for Lemieux he was 170 according to HBO commentators.

Canelo is 25 and Golovkin is 33. Young men can make weight more easily. Did Golovkin ever fight under 160lbs?

Canelo can easily gain 5lbs of muscles. He's just trying to be as light as possible for as long as possible. Fighting at 155lbs for three years should justify that.

[Craveman]

If Golovkin looks drained and puts on poor performance like in De La Hoya vs Pacquiao fight. Then you know what's coming.

[-Kev-]

Firstable, 155 is not an actual weight class, so this 'he's comfortable at that weight' BS holds no merit. He might be boxing's biggest star, but he's not big enough to create his own weight class.

Secondable, Canelo is the MW champ (on paper at least) Golovkin is his mandatory. Fighting at the full MW limit isn't giving your opponent an advantage, it's how things work in boxing. Or at least used to work.

As for Canelo not needing Golovkin I don't think that's entirety true. Other than him, who else he has to fight? Cotto he already beat, other Middleweights aren't PPV worthy opponents. Golovkin is a star and one of the most known fighters around that weight class. Even Canelos hardcore Mexican fans aren't that ****** and will keep buying his BS PPV fights for only so long.

155 is middleweight, 160 is the middleweight limit. WBC will sanction the fight as long as it's between 155-160. If Canelo/GBP offer Canelo a fight at 155(which is the start of middleweight, not a made up weight), and GGG decline, that's on them.

yes, there might be issues among them for the catchweight but our title is for the MW Division: 154< and ≥160. We will sanction it.

we are not[allowing 'Caneloweight']. If they have an outside contract it's their thing.They can come to the fight weighting the 160 of the MW division limit

[Scipio2009]

why not just do the right thing and fight at 160lbs?

id hate to see canelo beat GGG and he cant get full credit because it was at a catchweight.

why cant people just do the right thing nowadays?

there's always some bull**** attached to almost everything these days not just boxing.

canelo holds 160 lineal belt. he rehydrates to 170lbs on fight night.

just do the right thing canelo and fight at 160.

its the righteous mexican thing to do.

it's prizefighting. What the **** is "do the right thing" when Canelo has no current issues getting down to 155 (likely 154 as well)?

If Golovkin is starving himself down to 160, he shouldn't have let his camp run their mouth about him being able to fight at 154.

Peter Quillin, shaving down likely from 180lbs, can barely get down to 160; if he was foolish enough to target a fighter who believes themselves to be a junior middleweight, he better be ready to drag his body down an additional 5 lbs.

If Golovkin "simply wants the belt", the path is clear; refuse the step-aside money and force the WBC to make a decision; if Golovkin wants to fight Saul Alvarez, it's gonna be at 155lbs.

[-Kev-]

155 is middleweight, 160 is the middleweight limit. WBC will sanction the fight as long as it's between 155-160. If Canelo/GBP offer Canelo a fight at 155(which is the start of middleweight, not a made up weight), and GGG decline, that's on them.

Offer GGG* a fight.