Comments Thread For: Marquez, Bradley Battle Over Rehydration Clause, Testing

[BennyST]

He imposed CWs on Pac and Floyd. I understand the mitigating circumstances (though he'd fought 2x at 140+ before Pac 3), and don't give him a hard time, mostly cause neither him nor most of this fans point fingers at others over such things. Noone in boxing is above it anyway, it's just that one guy gets 99.9% of the criticism.

I'd have agreed with you on the outcome totally until Bradley Prov. He's never looked anywhere near that vulnerable, plus there's the damage he took. But if he's really disciplined, he could maybe even make it look easy.

Nah, no way. He won't look anything like he did against Prov. He'll come in like the old Bradley. You could tell he was slow and rusty. I think it was the lay off more than anything. He looked slow on his feet and then the extra weight he added on after that would have slowed him down even more.

He'll outwork Marquez clearly and despite the two clean haymakers that Marquez landed on a more offensively open Pac, his power hasn't really increased and it was only his gameplan of desperately trying to land one massive shot that got him the win. He doesn't have enough power to really do that type of damage to Bradley or hurt him enough to KHTFO.

Marquez too slow and open now, and just too ****ing old. Bradley won't try to go to war and he won't be underestimating him like he might have Prov.

[wazaa.]

Bradley's demand is understandable. JMM's demand is just BS.


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[HeroBando]

Nah, no way. He won't look anything like he did against Prov. He'll come in like the old Bradley. You could tell he was slow and rusty. I think it was the lay off more than anything. He looked slow on his feet and then the extra weight he added on after that would have slowed him down even more.

He'll outwork Marquez clearly and despite the two clean haymakers that Marquez landed on a more offensively open Pac, his power hasn't really increased and it was only his gameplan of desperately trying to land one massive shot that got him the win. He doesn't have enough power to really do that type of damage to Bradley or hurt him enough to KHTFO.

Marquez too slow and open now, and just too ****ing old. Bradley won't try to go to war and he won't be underestimating him like he might have Prov.

I disagree about JMMs power. The 3rd round KD is the same punch he's caught Pac with a bunch before, often off balance, but never dropped him. And that was a heavy KD. So I think you're probably right about how it goes, but it's hard not to be influenced by their last fight. JMM surprised with 1 punch power, Tim showed surprising vulnerability. He wasn't even out after the big Holt KD, like he was multiple times vs Prov.

[HeroBando]

Bradley's demand is understandable. JMM's demand is just BS.


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What's not understandable is insisting on 2 agencies doing the testing. That's ******ed, what's the point? Is one of the 2 inept or crooked or what? If so, go with the other one. If both are, then screw the whole thing, it's not cheap, especially USADA.

[BennyST]

Someone had asked Memo why Marquez doesn't want to test against Bradley and he replied with this.

Angel heredia @Guruscience 47m
please read well,
Marquez signed for usada, then tim requested juan to do both usada/Vada,
Not logical, not in contract,read well


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Bradley: "USADA & VADA Testing or No Fight! I Don't Give a **** What Bob Say!"

Ok, so now it turns out that it could be Bradley being the ***** here after Marquez had already signed up for it and agreed to what the contract asked of him?

Like I said all through this crappy conversation, if the contracts are already signed then it can't be changed. Now it looks as if all you ******s *****ing had it wrong the whole time and it was just Bradley being a **** and wanting everyone and anyone testing.

So Bradley agrees to contract, but now he wants something else?

This is why I try to ignore most stuff until it's all done and dusted. No one knows for sure what's going on, and while everyone here was ranting about Marquez, it turns out that Bradley is the one making this **** more complicated.

So Marquez is saying "You want both testing, then you have to take a rehydration clause"? Is that what's going on? If so, that sounds more than fine to me.

[Mister Wolf]

Ok, so now it turns out that it could be Bradley being the ***** here after Marquez had already signed up for it and agreed to what the contract asked of him?

Like I said all through this crappy conversation, if the contracts are already signed then it can't be changed. Now it looks as if all you ******s *****ing had it wrong the whole time and it was just Bradley being a **** and wanting everyone and anyone testing.

So Bradley agrees to contract, but now he wants something else?

This is why I try to ignore most stuff until it's all done and dusted. No one knows for sure what's going on, and while everyone here was ranting about Marquez, it turns out that Bradley is the one making this **** more complicated.

So Marquez is saying "You want both testing, then you have to take a rehydration clause"? Is that what's going on? If so, that sounds more than fine to me.

Bradley said his contract includes both in that video. We will see who is telling the truth.

[hectari]

Weird.. While I do criticize Bradley for being so heavy, he is right. This is WW not JWW. These are the big boys! Outside of lil Floyd I don't know of too many WW's who don't weigh at least 10 pounds more on fight night. I guess Marquez doesn't plan on defending his title should he win if the fight even happens..

I guess you never heard of Manny Pacquiao?

[Mister Wolf]

I read on a L.A times article that Bradley's wife who presides over the contract stated that it includes VADA and USADA. Arum is trying to change the contract and Marquez is pulling a ***** move now that he realizes Tim is gonna **** his old *** up.

[BennyST]

I disagree about JMMs power. The 3rd round KD is the same punch he's caught Pac with a bunch before, often off balance, but never dropped him. And that was a heavy KD. So I think you're probably right about how it goes, but it's hard not to be influenced by their last fight. JMM surprised with 1 punch power, Tim showed surprising vulnerability. He wasn't even out after the big Holt KD, like he was multiple times vs Prov.

*sigh*

Why does this keep getting brought up? We see it every single day, every week, every year, for our whole lives in every fight and some people still refuse to understand what's right in front of their eyes.

He caught him with the same style of punch, the same move, but not the same punch. In the 3rd fight, he caught him cleaner, with Pac not pulling back and Marquez not holding back. It was flush, with full power while the others were not. It was different than any other punch he'd previously caught him with, despite having caught him with the same move before.

He also caught him with the exact same style punch right after Marquez got knocked down. Remember? It was the same exact same type of shot that he caught him with later that KHTFO. Why didn't it put him to sleep then? It was the same punch right?

Why do we see that some guys can land the same shot, but only one of those shots will knock someone out? It's because the slightest change in angle, stance, accuracy etc etc etc etc can be the difference between a knock down, knock out or not even hurting the guy. Pac took it worse than any other time in any of their fights. That's why it put him down. It wasn't that Marquez had more power, it's just that he landed the shot better. It really is that simple.

Watch the two again. I know the ones you mean, and they land very differently, along with Marquez throwing caution to the wind much more in the 4th fight.

If it was just that, then he would have knocked Pac out in the 3rd fight too....he landed the same punches after all.

[HeroBando]

*sigh*

Why does this keep getting brought up? We see it every single day, every week, every year, for our whole lives in every fight and some people still refuse to understand what's right in front of their eyes.

He caught him with the same style of punch, the same move, but not the same punch. In the 3rd fight, he caught him cleaner, with Pac not pulling back and Marquez not holding back. It was flush, with full power while the others were not. It was different than any other punch he'd previously caught him with, despite having caught him with the same move before.

He also caught him with the exact same style punch right after Marquez got knocked down. Remember? It was the same exact same type of shot that he caught him with later that KHTFO. Why didn't it put him to sleep then? It was the same punch right?

Why do we see that some guys can land the same shot, but only one of those shots will knock someone out? It's because the slightest change in angle, stance, accuracy etc etc etc etc can be the difference between a knock down, knock out or not even hurting the guy. Pac took it worse than any other time in any of their fights. That's why it put him down. It wasn't that Marquez had more power, it's just that he landed the shot better. It really is that simple.

Watch the two again. I know the ones you mean, and they land very differently, along with Marquez throwing caution to the wind much more in the 4th fight.

If it was just that, then he would have knocked Pac out in the 3rd fight too....he landed the same punches after all.

Dude you're not telling me anything new, I'm not ******, No 2 punches in boxing are ever the same, but you can still use common sense. How about in simpler terms: show me the last time JMM drops anyone with a single punch. Even Terdsak and Jaca went down to combos. Now show me where he drops an iron chinned guy 2 times with single punches, one time for good.

And let me spare you the effort, of course he was on something, and I don't care much. Even playing field.