Comments Thread For: Marquez, Bradley Battle Over Rehydration Clause, Testing

[LOWBLOW_CHAMP]

bradley didnt even weigh over 150 for his last 2 fights i dunno what marquez means

[kidjalapeno]

T It sounds like a ***** move it might be.. but I dnt think it has to do with the doping.. u see the pictures of Marquez and brandley without a shirt on this site bradley looks HUGE and not fat fit huge.. he makes berto look like puppet Vasquez haha.. if Timmy comes to the ring like that no way can jmm can keep him off if he can't hurt him

[M.O.B]

You guys do know that re weigh in happens at 9 in the morning of the fight, so he will still be able to weigh in at 162 fight night if he wanted to he just cant weigh more then 157 when they do the weigh in at 9 in the morning.

Easy, choice take the clause and rehydrate like normal anyways.

[BennyST]

did you miss JMM doing it twice already, same as Pac?

Marquez has had two catchweight fights? Floyd and Pac you mean? I'm pretty sure Pac demanding that Marquez come up two division to fight him was a hell of a lot more advantageous to Pac and it was actually Pac that got what he wanted. Floyd...well, he ignored t anyway didn't he? But, who cares? What's that got to do with this?

Anyway, I'm not the one *****ing about catchweights, rehydration clauses, and fighters contractual 'demands'. I'm responding to what is clearly some major league hypocrisy and ******ity in this thread over something people clearly aren't even fully aware of. Catchweights suck because they can hurt a fighter that already struggles with weight. Anyone saying that a ten pound rehydration clause is more dangerous than making a fighter lose more weight than he normally does/can is ****ed in the head.

Does anyone even know for a fact if the contract stuff is done? If it is, then why is anyone arguing? Marquez cant change ****. If Arum has come out and said no extra testing, then clearly he's still taking his anti Floyd stance and ignoring what the fighters want and just doing his stubborn BS, in which case it doesnt matter.

I don't have a problem with any of this. It's a ten pound rehydration...get the **** over it. It's nothing. You'd think he'd asked Bradley to make the ****ing lightweight limit. It won't have the slightest effect.

It sucks that Marquez can't just give in to Bradley's demands, but that's just how boxing contracts and demands work. One guy wants something, the other guys team will say "Fine, then we get this". This isn't exactly Pac or Floyd "We get this, and you get nothing". That's the nature of boxing and the nature of contractual disputes and demands before a fight. Neither one of these demands will have any effect on the outcome of the fight, so why people are making this much of a deal out of nothing is beyond me.

Unless it actually stalls the fight, cancels it etc, then it makes no difference. Bradley gets his demand, Marquez gets his, big ****ing deal.

Marquez has no chance anyway, so it won't matter what weight Bradley comes in at. They are probably looking at the Provodnikov fight, but that's wrong I think. I don't think made the weight properly after so long out and didn't train properly, which is why he put on more weight than usual. He'll come in better prepared this time and probably won't even go much above 10 pounds over, so it's even more of a non issue.

He'll outwork Marquez easy, because at 40 years old and doing too much weight training, he's slower than ever and doesn't work as much. Hopefully it's a good fight though.

[El Angel]

I'm just a little disappointed JMM

[BennyST]

You forget that Marquez too has asked for CWs.

Also funny in that the poster mentions "Manny and Floyd" but you can't get yourself to bring up Floyd's name in a negative way BUT you have no problem using Manny in a negative way.

I will do it for you since you just can't: So I guess you are admitting to Floyd asking for a CW on Canelo that "will actually affect Canelo's performance". Right?

Well, just like I dont think the two pounds had much effect on Cotto, I don't think the two pounds will have any effect on Canelo. He's been weighing in between 150 and 154 for the last three years and out of all his 154 limit fights, he's only weighed in at 154 two times. That's out of about 12 fights I think. The rest of the time he weighs in around 152 anyway. He'll be fine.

People just make a bigger deal of it because they want to and because it makes them feel better about whatever fighter they like and whatever bias they have. In this case, nearly every single one of the people *****ing about this issue and making a bigger deal of it than necessary are Pac fans. Amazing that isn't it? Do you think there could be some reason behind that? If it was mainly Floyd fans, I'd bring up more instances of Floyd being a ****.

Seriously, people sound like they are having fits about this and getting seriously riled up. It's a pointless little bargaining chip that makes them feel better about whatever deal they're getting. It's ten pounds. Bradley probably won't even go over it by that much anyway, if at all. It's not going to help Marquez in the least except to get a negotiation 'win' over Bradley.

It's just not important. At all. Yet people are suddenly trying to draw correlations between Marquez wanting to pull out, Marquez definitely being on PEDS ("This proves Marquez is roiding!"....WTF?), and a bunch of other horse****. This little negotiation bickering **** happens for every fight. Who cares?

[viperz007]

T It sounds like a ***** move it might be.. but I dnt think it has to do with the doping.. u see the pictures of Marquez and brandley without a shirt on this site bradley looks HUGE and not fat fit huge.. he makes berto look like puppet Vasquez haha.. if Timmy comes to the ring like that no way can jmm can keep him off if he can't hurt him

bradley been coming as huge as that everytime his 3months away from the fight
remember during the pac fight everyone saying bradley got chubby, but then weighin he was fit

cant imagine how much vegestables this guy eat a day though considering his a vegan :///

marquez need to stop bit ching around and fight bradley like a man just like the guy he KTFO...

[HeroBando]

Marquez has had two catchweight fights? Floyd and Pac you mean? I'm pretty sure Pac demanding that Marquez come up two division to fight him was a hell of a lot more advantageous to Pac and it was actually Pac that got what he wanted. Floyd...well, he ignored t anyway didn't he? But, who cares? What's that got to do with this?

Anyway, I'm not the one *****ing about catchweights, rehydration clauses, and fighters contractual 'demands'. I'm responding to what is clearly some major league hypocrisy and ******ity in this thread over something people clearly aren't even fully aware of. Catchweights suck because they can hurt a fighter that already struggles with weight. Anyone saying that a ten pound rehydration clause is more dangerous than making a fighter lose more weight than he normally does/can is ****ed in the head.

Does anyone even know for a fact if the contract stuff is done? If it is, then why is anyone arguing? Marquez cant change ****. If Arum has come out and said no extra testing, then clearly he's still taking his anti Floyd stance and ignoring what the fighters want and just doing his stubborn BS, in which case it doesnt matter.

I don't have a problem with any of this. It's a ten pound rehydration...get the **** over it. It's nothing. You'd think he'd asked Bradley to make the ****ing lightweight limit. It won't have the slightest effect.

It sucks that Marquez can't just give in to Bradley's demands, but that's just how boxing contracts and demands work. One guy wants something, the other guys team will say "Fine, then we get this". This isn't exactly Pac "We get this, and you get nothing". That's the nature of boxing and the nature of contractual disputes and demands before a fight. Neither one of these demands will have any effect on the outcome of the fight, so why people are making this much of a deal out of nothing is beyond me.

Unless it actually stalls the fight, cancels it etc, then it makes no difference. Bradley gets his demand, Marquez gets his, big ****ing deal.

Marquez has no chance anyway, so it won't matter what weight Bradley comes in at. They are probably looking at the Provodnikov fight, but that's wrong I think. I don't think made the weight properly after so long out and didn't train properly, which is why he put on more weight than usual. He'll come in better prepared this time and probably won't even go much above 10 pounds over, so it's even more of a non issue.

He'll outwork Marquez easy, because at 40 years old and doing too much weight training, he's slower than ever and doesn't work as much. Hopefully it's a good fight though.

He imposed CWs on Pac and Floyd. I understand the mitigating circumstances (though he'd fought 2x at 140+ before Pac 3), and don't give him a hard time, mostly cause neither him nor most of this fans point fingers at others over such things. Noone in boxing is above it anyway, it's just that one guy gets 99.9% of the criticism.

I'd have agreed with you on the outcome totally until Bradley Prov. He's never looked anywhere near that vulnerable, plus there's the damage he took. But if he's really disciplined, he could maybe even make it look easy.

[thuggery]

Someone had asked Memo why Marquez doesn't want to test against Bradley and he replied with this.

Angel heredia @Guruscience 47m
please read well,
Marquez signed for usada, then tim requested juan to do both usada/Vada,
Not logical, not in contract,read well


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Bradley: "USADA & VADA Testing or No Fight! I Don't Give a **** What Bob Say!"

[El Angel]

Someone had asked Memo why Marquez doesn't want to test against Bradley and he replied with this.

Angel heredia @Guruscience 47m
please read well,
Marquez signed for usada, then tim requested juan to do both usada/Vada,
Not logical, not in contract,read well


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Bradley: "USADA & VADA Testing or No Fight! I Don't Give a **** What Bob Say!"

This shit should have already been handled in the negotiations before you have a presser and shoot the promo commercial. If this doesn't come off, I'm gonna be pissed.