Comments Thread For: Marquez, Bradley Battle Over Rehydration Clause, Testing

[BennyST]

Dude you're not telling me anything new, I'm not ******, No 2 punches in boxing are ever the same, but you can still use common sense. How about in simpler terms: show me the last time JMM drops anyone with a single punch. Even Terdsak and Jaca went down to combos. Now show me where he drops an iron chinned guy 2 times with single punches, one time for good.

And let me spare you the effort, of course he was on something, and I don't care much. Even playing field.

Seriously?

You mean the last time he knocked someone cold with one punch?

Find one other time Pac has knocked someone out like he did to Hatton.

Find one other time Martinez has knocked out someone with one punch like he did to Williams.....on and on and on and on. They just land the perfect shot on their perfect night.

I honestly can't believe that after a 100 year history of seeing this time and time and time and time and time again, people still question it. It is the height of ignorance. We see it happen every ****ing weekend. Guys sometimes land perfect knockout shots.

It's not as if Marquez doesn't knock guys out. He's got a higher KO % than Pac. Unless you haven't seen much, he's been knocking guys out his whole career. Do you want me to show you evidence that he was able to stop Pac with one perfect shot? Well, like I said, show me one time that Pac has knocked someone cold like he did to Hatton, show me one time that Martinez has done it before. Marquez had shown in every fight the ability to hurt Pac more than Cotto, Morales, Barrera, Hatton, and most others and he'd nearly dropped him a couple of times.

Now, combine that with Marquez going for broke and really going for single shot haymakers and Pac being much more open offensively, and you get.....a one punch KO.

Marquez knocked Pac down in round three with one punch, just like he knocked Terdsak down in round one with one left uppercut, and Jandaeng with one left hook....But Pac got up easily and then ran into a perfect counter shot a couple of rounds later that kept him down. I don't understand the point? He knocked those guys down with single shots. If you land it perfectly, it'll knock you out.

That's how boxing works.

[thuggery]

Ok, so now it turns out that it could be Bradley being the ***** here after Marquez had already signed up for it and agreed to what the contract asked of him?

Like I said all through this crappy conversation, if the contracts are already signed then it can't be changed. Now it looks as if all you ******s *****ing had it wrong the whole time and it was just Bradley being a **** and wanting everyone and anyone testing.

So Bradley agrees to contract, but now he wants something else?

This is why I try to ignore most stuff until it's all done and dusted. No one knows for sure what's going on, and while everyone here was ranting about Marquez, it turns out that Bradley is the one making this **** more complicated.

So Marquez is saying "You want both testing, then you have to take a rehydration clause"? Is that what's going on? If so, that sounds more than fine to me.

True...

It appears we may have jumped the gun on this one. It could be Bradley causing all of these problems. We really don't know until the facts are out.

[hectari]

Guys it seems like Marquez is basically saying if I take the tests I will no longer have serum that gave me the power I had when I KO Pacquiao and helped me put on the size and I will be weak, so for the fight to be fair I have to weaken you too.

[Godsfly]

Someone had asked Memo why Marquez doesn't want to test against Bradley and he replied with this.

Angel heredia @Guruscience 47m
please read well,
Marquez signed for usada, then tim requested juan to do both usada/Vada,
Not logical, not in contract,read well


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Bradley: "USADA & VADA Testing or No Fight! I Don't Give a **** What Bob Say!"

memo is a known liar and a scum bag...........i wouldn't be surprised if that fat **** was still pushing peds. what do you expect him to say? don't post to us his garbage (un reliable source) the guy has no clue whats in JMM part of the contract.


the usada and vada thing is not an issue.....marquez is saying if bradley wants ANY random drug testing (usada, vada) he must agree to that 10 pound re hydration clause...........and he also wants specific things with the test. he wants to be tested a certain way (both at the same time and so on) nether company (vada or usada) will be dictated on how they will run the blood test.......thats not gonna work, so thats a fail already........and bradley won't agree to the re hydration clause.....all of these things must be out of the way before we can even think about a blood test (according to jmm) I could be wrong, but it comes off as road blocks just to remove testing from the fight.........

[SweetScience]

All a scheme to sell the fight.....

Nothing to see here.

[HeroBando]

Seriously?

You mean the last time he knocked someone cold with one punch?

Find one other time Pac has knocked someone out like he did to Hatton.

Find one other time Martinez has knocked out someone with one punch like he did to Williams.....on and on and on and on. They just land the perfect shot on their perfect night.

I honestly can't believe that after a 100 year history of seeing this time and time and time and time and time again, people still question it. It is the height of ignorance. We see it happen every ****ing weekend. Guys sometimes land perfect knockout shots.

It's not as if Marquez doesn't knock guys out. He's got a higher KO % than Pac. Unless you haven't seen much, he's been knocking guys out his whole career. Do you want me to show you evidence that he was able to stop Pac with one perfect shot? Well, like I said, show me one time that Pac has knocked someone cold like he did to Hatton, show me one time that Martinez has done it before. Marquez had shown in every fight the ability to hurt Pac more than Cotto, Morales, Barrera, Hatton, and most others and he'd nearly dropped him a couple of times.

Now, combine that with Marquez going for broke and really going for single shot haymakers and Pac being much more open offensively, and you get.....a one punch KO.

Marquez knocked Pac down in round three with one punch, just like he knocked Terdsak down in round one with one left uppercut, and Jandaeng with one left hook....But Pac got up easily and then ran into a perfect counter shot a couple of rounds later that kept him down. I don't understand the point? He knocked those guys down with single shots. If you land it perfectly, it'll knock you out.

That's how boxing works.

OK but 2 perfect shots in one bout, pretty rare.

Yeah I realized he may have knocked Terdsak down with one punch. So that answers my question, the last time he knocked a guy down with a single punch was Terdsak in 06.

[BattlingNelson]

Bradley has the upper hand here. You might feel that rehydrating 10 lbs or more is BS, but the rules only say that you have to make the weight at the weigh-in.

That there should be a rehydration clause for all fights for the benefit and health of the fighters is another matter, but as it is today, there is no rule.

So take the test JMM and STFU.

[JDezi4]

Ok, so now it turns out that it could be Bradley being the ***** here after Marquez had already signed up for it and agreed to what the contract asked of him?

Like I said all through this crappy conversation, if the contracts are already signed then it can't be changed. Now it looks as if all you ******s *****ing had it wrong the whole time and it was just Bradley being a **** and wanting everyone and anyone testing.

So Bradley agrees to contract, but now he wants something else?

This is why I try to ignore most stuff until it's all done and dusted. No one knows for sure what's going on, and while everyone here was ranting about Marquez, it turns out that Bradley is the one making this **** more complicated.

So Marquez is saying "You want both testing, then you have to take a rehydration clause"? Is that what's going on? If so, that sounds more than fine to me..

Bradley requesting more extensive testing is completely irrelevant cause the contract has been signed... It's a none issue

Marquez making any kind of deal out of it DOES look funny considering one way or the other its a bitch move

Keeping Bradley from being able to rehydrate freely is another way of making sure he's not 100%, so why would he ask for that unless he feels its necessary?

[luckykb8]

Where were all these people when Manny was giving bul**** excuse after bul**** excuse as to why he didnt want to do drug testing, had so much people expressed such displeasure in pac`s decisions maybe jus maybe we would`ve had our mega fight. To me any athlete not jus fighter, who has a problem with drug testing is 99.99% dopin, jus like any driver who has a problem takin a breathalyzer is 99.99% DUI, they are dopin, plain & simple

[BennyST]

OK but 2 perfect shots in one bout, pretty rare.

Yeah I realized he may have knocked Terdsak down with one punch. So that answers my question, the last time he knocked a guy down with a single punch was Terdsak in 06.

One perfect shot, one very good shot.

Last time he knocked someone down with one punch? Not counting Ramos...

Pacquiao.
Diaz (was on his way down with the first overhand right, got hit with three more, then out with one uppercut to finish).
Casamayor.

Nonetheless, if that's your point; that it's suss that a boxer who isn't Julian Jackson is knocking a top boxer out, then what do you say about Pac doing it to Hatton? He's never knocked someone out like that before. Ever.

It is still a ridiculous point you're trying to make and doesn't hold up. Why could Pac blitz a prime Barrera in their first fight, but couldn't even drop an older Barrera in their second?

How was Walcott able to KTFO of Charles with one single shot when he'd previously been clearly beaten in each bout they'd had and hadn't shown the ability to do so? Because that's boxing. He'd lost 5 out of 10 fights going into that bout, and he blew Charles out with one shot. Why? That shouldn't be possible.

How did Williams get KO'd in two, with one punch, when he'd just gone 12 hard rounds with Martinez without even really being hurt apart from a brief flash knockdown in round one? Martinez had not ever shown one punch power before that fight either. Marquez had consistently shown excellent, world class power, and had hurt Pac in each fight more than anyone else had been able to.