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Originally posted by jayjames616 View PostI can honestly say NOBODY I watched the fight with were remotely interested in the under card at all. I even watched the fight with Puerto Ricans and Mexicans. We watched the Mavs vs OKC for most of the under card and then ate enchiladas and drank during the Canelo and Mosley fight. Everyone was there for one reason and that was to watch Mayweather.
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Originally posted by larryx2013 View Posthow many did shane-mora do
how many did cotto-margo do
what has canelo ever headlined??
sure cotto is the 3rd biggest draw
but take floyd out and this card would not have even done 300k
It depends on who Cotto is fighting. If he's fighting someone noteworthy then it'll be decent. His fight with Margo did 600K. Canelo would have added to that a little bit, and so would have Shane. Hypothetically speaking with Canelo/Shane on that Cotto/Margo card that fight would have probably done 750K, which are great numbers for anyone not named Manny or Floyd.
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Canelo has a huge follow in Mexico, but he is far from a household name in the states. Mosley doesn't sell too well and Cotto holds his own. I'd say Floyd is responsible for 100% of the fans interest with the rest just helping his case. I doubt anyone that bought this ppv turned away from the TV after the canelo-mosley bout.
Including Mexicans and Floyd detractors
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Originally posted by badass316 View PostSo you're implying that all 3 of those names contributed absolutely nothing to that event?
It depends on who Cotto is fighting. If he's fighting someone noteworthy then it'll be decent. His fight with Margo did 600K. Canelo would have added to that a little bit, and so would have Shane. Hypothetically speaking with Canelo/Shane on that Cotto/Margo card that fight would have probably done 750K, which are great numbers for anyone not named Manny or Floyd.
I would venture a guess and say most
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Originally posted by The Gambler1981 View PostHow many of those people that care about those fights would buy the PPV anyway, regardless if Canelo was there or not.
I would venture a guess and say most
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Originally posted by badass316 View PostWhich is why I said in my first post that PBF is primarily responsible for those numbers. Then some genius tried to imply that Cotto, Canelo, and Mosley did absolutely NOTHING to contribute to the 1.5 million buys and that it was ALL PBF.
But most people who would buy a Canelo-Mosley fight would already be buying Mayweather-Cotto, and it is not like they can buy more PPV because they like Canelo and Mosley also.
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I think Canelo, Mosley, & Cotto had a lot to do with helping those numbers. People seem to forget(specially Floyd fans) that Floyd's last fight with Ortiz left A LOT of people very upset. They needed those names and their marketbase to make the fight more appealing to casual fans.
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Well since Mayweather - Ortiz did 1.25 I'll say that Floyd is responsible for at least 1.25 of the 1.5. Until Canelo sells 1 ppv I can't give him much credit for these #s. Now Cotto is a big draw but I would think most people would choose to watch Mayweather over Miguel. For an example if Cotto and Floyd were fighting the same guy and you had to choose between which fight to buy I believe 90 % would choose to watch Mayweather.Last edited by jayjames616; 05-11-2012, 07:35 PM.
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Originally posted by The Gambler1981 View PostSure they did something that is why it will be Floyd's second biggest fight, Cotto being the main reason for that.
But most people who would buy a Canelo-Mosley fight would already be buying Mayweather-Cotto, and it is not like they can buy more PPV because they like Canelo and Mosley also.
The numbers that Canelo and Mosley contributed may have been small, but it's still a contribution no matter how you look at it. In layman's terms, having Canelo and Shane fight in the undercard did not detract in any shape or form from those PPV buys. GBP wouldn't have put those two in the card unless they knew they were going to contribute. It isn't an accident that GBP has thrown Canelo in the last two PBF fights.
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