Mayweather vs. Cotto post fight Thread -DON'T make new threads about the fight

[NormC]

To add to that I think a lot of people are forgetting that he wanted to give the fans something to remember.

People might flame me, but he made the Cotto fight harder than he had too to please the fans. Floyd could have fought him in the center of the ring and just simply boxed him. Period, old legs or not.

I watched it a few times and not to take away from Cotto because he fought hard but there were several stretches when Floyd was toying with him.

To say Floyd fought the way he did to please the fans is pure ******ity to me..Floyd fought the way he did because of the pressure Cotto was putting on him. You mean to tell me Floyd was bleeding from the nose and mouth simply because he wanted to please the fans?? Think about how that sounds. Floyd chose to get hit with punches all night for the fans?? jajajajaja you people are too funny. Floyd cares about nothing but money and doesn't care about the fans as long as he gets his money..something I can't blame him for because I would be the same way, i'll get my money either way.

[pimpgoz]

for those who say that cotto gave a blueprint on how to beat mayweather or exposed mayweather you are all wrong. floyds error was that he chose to lose 4 pounds after the weigh in and come in to the fight at 147. it just showed a comfortable cotto making mayweather work hard to dominate. plus Mayweather showed a lot of respect for cotto that HE WONT have for pacquiao. if and when pacquiao and mayweather fight pac cannot touch gloves at the start of each round including the 12th round. and all in all i just wanna see the fight no matter what. there is only ONE excuse that mayweather has for why he should get more money but ONLY a 60-40 split in favor of him. when mayweather fought de la hoya, oscar was the PPV king and after pay-per-view percentages were included, De La Hoya made $52 million and Mayweather made $25 million. his only legitimate excuse is that he took less to fight de la hoya and knew that it would sky rocket his financial career. a 60-40 split in favor of mayweather is great even for pacquiao knowing how well this PPV will do. there is too much money for this fight not to happen and everyone just sucks at getting things done for this fight in both corners but the voice of reason in pacs corner is freddie roach and if he saw this and advised pac to take this offer he�d do it and bob arum would have to do as manny says in this situation.

[tyson]

I thought Cotto was beginning to take over the fight in the middle rounds but then he gassed and the later rounds were all Mayweather.

I'm sorry for barging in on your discussion, but your view here is something a lot of people share, and something I'd like to address.

Like you, I think Cotto gained some momentum in the rounds 5, 6 and 8. But I don't think it was because of anything Cotto did as much as it was what Mayweather stopped doing. In round 5, Mayweather started off by going to the body on the inside for the first minute, probably figuring out that he needed to slow Cotto down in order to slow his own pace down, because I think he felt he had maintained a higher activity than normal without being able to slow Cotto down. For 2 minutes and 30 seconds of the round, Floyd was easily outworking and outlanding Cotto, before Cotto tried to steal the round by cornering Floyd to the ropes and throwing a few flurries that resulted in one left hook landing clean to the head as well as a few jabs.

In round 6, Floyd starts off moving with his hands down to slow the pace down, but Cotto wants none of it, forcing Floyd to continue focusing on the body only to have four solid hooks landed against his rib-cage in return. Floyd then starts to throw hard jabs to the belly of Cotto. Then comes the moment where Cotto lands the ******* jab to the nose of Floyd, which makes Floyd take a step back and nod his head as if to say "okay, you got me. Nice shot." After that, Floyd switched to the passive-aggressive mode, where he walked Cotto down, looking for Cotto to fire jabs so he could pull-counter a right hand over it, which he landed clean on one occasion.
Floyd was now clearly trying to force the pace down, realizing that Cotto is much less active going backwards than forwards. In turn he reduces his own output to conserve energy. The last minute he forces Miguel to bounce around heavily and making Cotto every so often jump in with three punch combinations that doesn't hit anything other than elbows and gloves.

To me he clearly gave away this round for the reward of making Cotto spend much more energy while giving himself a welcome breather.

Round 7 is a jab-fest in the center of the ring. It's clear that the round off has given Floyd the snap back in his punches. Sharp, fast jabs landing at will. 2 minutes in we see a nice four-punch combo from Floyd that lands partially. The last minute Cotto looks heavy on his feet to me, slow and clumsy as he jumps in with leaping hooks and combo's that Floyd easily moves away from, looking more and more fresh by the second.

Round 8 starts off with Floyd going directly toe-to-toe, firing off right uppercuts to the mid-section of Miguel, most likely sensing the wear on his opponent. Rapid three-punch combinations up top follows. With a smile on his face, Floyd retreats to the ropes and lets Cotto fire off combination after combination, where only a few jabs lands clean. A few pot-shots to the head to invite Cotto to punch more combinations, which are now becoming wild and inaccurate. To me, as a student of the psychology and mind games in the ring, it becomes clear what Mayweather is doing.
He is draining Cotto's energy by making him frustrated and impatient, spending energy recklessly.
Curiously enough, this was my prediction before the fight;

"First reason of his coming downfall will be his impatience; he'll open up too much, too soon.
Secondly he moves without a plan. It seems like he just spends energy just to do it, for no reason whatsoever. Thirdly he will begin throwing combinations while under pressure, which means Floyd will counter him to death-while on the attack."

By the middle of round 8, it is clear that Cotto is spent, having lost all snap on his punches and is getting increasingly fatigued, evidenced by him leaning on Floyd, basically smothering himself. The last 20 seconds of round 8 is Cotto's last hurrah with a few flurries that made a couple of nice jabs land, winning him the round at the cost of the next 4...

In my eyes, Floyd won the 5 round because he won the first 2:30 min of it. He lost the 6th, in my eyes on purpose because he needed a breather. In the 7th he had his snap, speed and mean combinations back. By the 8th, he was enjoying himself because he knew he was making Cotto tiring himself out. Of course there is no way to be certain that Floyd's gameplan was to wear Cotto down, but to me that seemed blatantly obvious from the second round on. He knew Cotto spends energy for no reason and therefore is more susceptible to wearing himself out, like De la Hoya always did.
I know that Floyd knew, because I knew. And I haven't studied Cotto at all.

I think Floyd expected Cotto to fold more easily in the final four, but was surprised and a little bit frustrated that Miguel was as tough as he was.

It's strange that for all his trainer's new techniques and improvements that he was still outlasted by a 35 year old in terms of fitness.

It isn't strange, because you cannot teach Cotto to be less tense and spend less energy in the wrong places because that is the personality and style of Cotto. If he had better conditioning, he would only spend even more useless energy in all the wrong places, like jumping up and down like a loon in the middle of the ring.

[tyson]

Im beginning to believe the theories on here that floyd actually let Cotto take him to the ropes. During the fight i said several times, why doesn't he just get out of there? He had tons of room and it even looked like Cotto wanted to fight in the center sometimes. If you ask me, Mayweather completely controlled the fight and purposely made himself more vulnerable. I hate to admit it but thats what I saw.

Floyd completely controlled the fight. Forwards, backwards, left, right and center. Floyd wanted Cotto to do exactly what he did; smothering himself and making him spend more energy than necessary.
Keep in mind that Floyd is an excellent bodypuncher, but in a somewhat sneaky manner.

That is exactly what happened. There are points in the fight when Mayweather goes to the ropes and he baits Cotto in. He knew Cotto would come forward and he thought he could just shoulder roll all of Cotto's shots. Mayweather was able to dodge all of Cotto's wide shots but he didn't prepare for Cotto's jab. He thought Cotto was going to fight like Oscar and barely use his jab but Cotto fought smart, just not smart enough.

He prepared for it. It's just that Cotto has an excellent jab, is one of the best fighters in the world and is willing to take a punch to deliver a punch. The idea that any fighter can avoid every punch from the best fighters in the world is disturbing. Any fight between the absolute elite will be exactly that; a fight.

Floyd does like to fight off the ropes, but there were plenty of moments where Cotto flat out muscled him into the ropes. And he didn't allow himself to be hit at all, he just couldn't avoid the jab.

Indeed. Cotto is tough, mean and very, very good.

[WESS]

Mayweather's having a victory/going away party on the 16th at DOA... lol "Going away" party! Classic.

[Johnwoo8686]

wow, some of you really are idiots, really? he went in there not expecting cotto to use his jab? lol

You my friend are the idiot, you should read what I said again. I said he thought Cotto would BARELY use it. Oscar had a great jab as well but stopped using it as the fight went on. Floyd thought Cotto would make the same mistake but instead Cotto doubled up the jab and Floyd wasn't prepared for just how good Cotto's jab was. You could see the surprise on Floyd's face when he got caught with the jab.

[Johnwoo8686]

Floyd does like to fight off the ropes, but there were plenty of moments where Cotto flat out muscled him into the ropes. And he didn't allow himself to be hit at all, he just couldn't avoid the jab.

Exactly what I've been trying to say.

[extracurRICular]

Of the 1.5 Millions PPV buys....how many do you discount from May's count??

You gotta hand it to Mayweather......dude does smart business.......Puerto Ricans buying for Cotto.......Mexicans buying for Canelo......and they all pat HIS numbers..........good sheeet!!!!

[BoxingGenius27]

It's more to it than just that.

Canelo fought Cintron for free not to long ago. He's far from this big PPV star.

Cotto is descent, but he's not 1.5 mil worth.

Just go to any boxing website, Mayweather's name fills the page. It's him, not Canelo on the undercard with Cotto on the main card.

[extracurRICular]

It's more to it than just that.

Canelo fought Cintron for free not to long ago. He's far from this big PPV star.

Cotto is descent, but he's not 1.5 mil worth.

Just go to any boxing website, Mayweather's name fills the page. It's him, not Canelo on the undercard with Cotto on the main card.

Do you really believe that???????