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    Originally posted by LARRYX P4P#1 View Post
    do ya'll realize manny lost his first title on the scales cause he didnt make weight???
    Wow Larry...they got you pretty riled up huh?

    Just been reading thru this mess...and Fcastro pretty much owned himself...

    There is some merit to Manny not making weight against Singsurat....he was "draining" himself to make weight...that is fact and documented....
    BUT...3 months later....he jumps to 122lbs and KOs whoever the hell it is he fought....seems pretty legit....

    I think Tards bring up the JMM debacle cuz of the agreed "catchweight"...and Floyd still came in over....just my input...

    How's the boxing with your kid going?

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      Originally posted by fightfan_79 View Post
      Wow Larry...they got you pretty riled up huh?

      Just been reading thru this mess...and Fcastro pretty much owned himself...

      There is some merit to Manny not making weight against Singsurat....he was "draining" himself to make weight...that is fact and documented....
      BUT...3 months later....he jumps to 122lbs and KOs whoever the hell it is he fought....seems pretty legit....

      I think Tards bring up the JMM debacle cuz of the agreed "catchweight"...and Floyd still came in over....just my input...

      How's the boxing with your kid going?
      i agree that manny was having issues making the weight..just showing them that things like this happen in boxing and floyd aint the first or last to doit..and man let me tell you me and him are doing great we had sparring tuesday he did great..man i went 3 rounds and found out how much out of shape i am ..lol i did great but that 3rd round was a *****..lol conditioning conditioning conditioning....but my boy has me very impressed he sparred a 12 year old and held his own

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        Originally posted by LARRYX P4P#1 View Post
        man i went 3 rounds and found out how much out of shape i am ..lol i did great but that 3rd round was a *****..lol conditioning conditioning conditioning....
        I'm in the same boat man....maybe we need some of that stuff Areza puts in Manny's smoothies

        Originally posted by LARRYX P4P#1 View Post
        but my boy has me very impressed he sparred a 12 year old and held his own
        That's what the F**K is up....can't wait for my 3 yr old to start....

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          Originally posted by fightfan_79 View Post
          I'm in the same boat man....maybe we need some of that stuff Areza puts in Manny's smoothies



          That's what the F**K is up....can't wait for my 3 yr old to start....
          take your 3 year old to the gym if you go..i take my 3 year old son with me everyday with me and my 9 year old...have them groe up around the sport...damn i love this ****

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            Marquez could've easily called the fight off rather than accept the extra cash knowing full well he could've been at a disadvantage speed and weight-wise. But Juan chose to accept and exercise the clause in the mutually agreed upon contract and the rest is history.

            It was a legally binding clause. Why aren't people attacking Marquez for accepting the extra cash?

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              Originally posted by merjohn32 View Post
              Sigh.... At that stage of his career, pac was far from the star that he was now. At that point, his title was very important to him and as I said he was able to come in at 113 which indicated that he cut weight and tried to make the weight.

              If he planned to cheat then why did he come in at 113? Why not come at 115 or even higher? He would still lose his title and would probably be stronger. IMO, he tried to make the weight. Finally realized he couldn't make it and lost his title and was penalized and ultimately lost by KO.
              I never said he didnt try to make weight but stop making excuses for him. It gets boring. My issue is with the hypocrisy of the Pacquiao fans where they say it's okay for Pacquiao to come in overweight but when Mayweather comes in overweight it's some sort of travesty. They say "Mayweather cheated against a smaller man" but Pacquiao did the same thing with Singsurat and got knocked out cold. Mayweather dominated Marquez winning every round. But because he's Floyd Mayweather he gets no credit, Whereas Manny Pacquiao can come in overweight and lose by KO. Yet people make loads of excuses for him and act like he didnt have an advantage. He did have an advantage, and lost badly.

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                it was more of a ***** move on floyds part becuase he was already making him move up from LW to WW, then cheated him again by not making the catch weight. What kind of a prick does that. (floyd)

                but, since its floyd, his dumb fans are trying to justify this as the same.

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                  Originally posted by LARRYX P4P#1 View Post
                  do ya'll realize manny lost his first title on the scales cause he didnt make weight???
                  you do know that Pac was having a hard time cutting weight since he's young back then and his body is naturally growing.

                  But for Floyd he was the one who initiated the catchweight and he let his opponent climb up to WW and gain 9 pounds but alas the great Floyd broke his own deal and went to fight over the weight limit.


                  Figure it out which one looks really bad to you. I'm pretty sure most of the posters here know the answer.

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                    Originally posted by LARRYX P4P#1 View Post
                    mannys not made weight bfore

                    manny had a fighter(oscar larios)move up 2 divisions to fight him


                    floyd gets ****ted on for the same **** manny does..


                    double standards apply.....and in Floyd's case he is held to a higher standard, because even *******s know he is the best right now.

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                      Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
                      Come on, mathead. This is pretty lame.

                      Look, Floyd was wrong no question. And we know why Pac fans keep bringing it up while conveniently forgetting Pac's own transgression...because they're Pac fans!
                      You're dangerously close to being a ***** now. The reason is Pac played by the rules, tried to sweat it out, lost the title in the scale and was weak as a baby trying to drain in the sauna getting knockout in the process.

                      Floyd has the temerity to change the contract at the last minute to make it appear it was "147" fight when the whole ****ing world knows it was 144. He already brought up JMM 9 lbs up, the big man has already inherent advantage over the smaller man and that catch weight and he didn't get pains trying to make weight. At least Corrales did the honorable thing and sweat out his extra lbs when Floyd fought him. GET THE DIFFERENCE?????????????

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