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    #81
    Originally posted by mangler jr View Post
    So it's ok for Money Pacquiao to take money fights but it's a sin for Floyd?
    wrong person , jr.

    i don't sweat fighters for taking big money fights. it's their job.

    that's why i don't sweat floyd for fighting hatton and delahoya instead of marg and cotto.

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      #82
      Originally posted by egreezy View Post
      Maybe Arum figures its not worth the risk of putting Pacqiao in with a fighter whose style doesn't particularly match well with unless they are P4P like Mayweather. You fall short against someone #1 in their division but not declared P4P hurts you more in perception. This may come up again if he fights Cotto instead of Floyd.
      Which is exactly what I believe is going to happen. But of course they will blame it on money or negotiations or weight or something.............

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        #83
        Originally posted by Mr._Pink View Post
        you know arum was milking the morales-trilogy at the time.

        larios and solis were just tuneups. not bad tuneups imo.

        the money was in fighting morales , barrera and marquez.

        you're in the business. if you had a fighter that could have ppv fights with morales , barrera , marquez would you even think about fighting guzman?

        Actually I think Nate was offered a Marquez fight. They took a fight with Guzman instead and look where they ended up.

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          #84
          Originally posted by egreezy View Post
          Maybe Arum figures its not worth the risk of putting Pacqiao in with a fighter whose style doesn't particularly match well with unless they are P4P like Mayweather. You fall short against someone #1 in their division but not declared P4P hurts you more in perception. This may come up again if he fights Cotto instead of Floyd.
          it'll come up but there won't be much weight on it.

          he could get ktfo fighting cotto and would be the underdog.

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            #85
            Originally posted by ИATAS206 View Post
            In defense of guzman he did school soto and easily won that fight. He had over a year layoff before that fight, and yeah coasted the last few rounds as he had the fight in the bag and there wasn't a possible chance of him KO'ing Soto. In hindsight it would have been better for him to look more impressive in the later rounds, sure, but Guzman was thinking get the W and he fights Pacquiao, as there was a verbal agreement in place that if Guzman won, he would get his shot at Pac.

            It is what it is though.
            You are defending Guzman for coasting the last few rounds and that's understandable, but you are dead wrong about him helping his case for a shot at Pacquiao by doing that. Another thing I don't agree with is about Soto getting schooled. He landed a lot of body shots against Guzman when he had him on the ropes and Guzman had a swollen eye at the end of the fight. Punch quality definitely belonged to Soto even though he may have gotten outlanded. I have a soft spot in my heart for action fighters though so we can go on and on about this subject. But I'm gonna leave it at this unless you counter with another good debatable post. It is fun I'll admit.

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              #86
              Originally posted by theAleph View Post
              Actually I think Nate was offered a Marquez fight. They took a fight with Guzman instead and look where they ended up.
              for real? i never knew this.

              one punch , is this true?

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                #87
                Originally posted by Leakbeak View Post
                Guzman is clearly not African American and the elite around Pacman's weight divisions so far have not been African American so the short answer is no, he has not avoided them. I'm sure he could have found some, but they wouldn't have been as good as the opponents he did fight who were usually latino. he's fought the best around his weight and they were not African American. Even if he moved up earlier on, the only black guy for him to fight would have been Casamayor who is also not American. This is just foreplay hype for Pacman V Mayweather!
                co-sign 100%

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by OnePunch View Post
                  Which is exactly what I believe is going to happen. But of course they will blame it on money or negotiations or weight or something.............
                  i think floyd and pac fighting someone else is a possibility.

                  they'll probably fight next year.

                  they both lose a ton of money if either one loses though......

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by Mr._Pink View Post
                    wrong person , jr.

                    i don't sweat fighters for taking big money fights. it's their job.

                    that's why i don't sweat floyd for fighting hatton and delahoya instead of marg and cotto.
                    Generally speaking...that's the number one reason why Mr boat buyer gets hate. For chasing money fights instead of "legacy" fights.

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by Mr._Pink View Post
                      i think floyd and pac fighting someone else is a possibility.

                      they'll probably fight next year.

                      they both lose a ton of money if either one loses though......
                      Yeah doesn't it make more sense for TR to match up both Pac and Cotto with Mayweather, one after the other to get more money than to eliminate one from the equation temporarily.

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