For those of you who put think Marciano is overrated

[Lubutheimmortal]

Everybody has a need for speed!

Cept Butterbean =) ! Be he is a big ole fattie hehe.

[The Surgeon]

I like Rocky but just dont think he could cut it with the Ali's, Foremans, Tysons ect. He was the best at his time and thats good enough

[hhascup]

I like Rocky but just dont think he could cut it with the Ali's, Foremans, Tysons ect. He was the best at his time and thats good enough

Well said!

Rocky was the best of HIS time.

[Kid Achilles]

He was the best of his time and comparing eras is often a difficult endeavor. Was his era really that bad, or did quality fighters like Rex Layne, Carmine Vingo, ,Roland LaStarza, and other contenders become obscured by time because a rising young Rocky destroyed them and ended their careers?

Who's to say that a slicker like LaStarza doesn't give Ali a good boxing match? These were some of the best heavyweights on the planet at the time, in an era when boxing was more popular in the US and there were more gyms and more Americans competing in the sport than at present.

I would say the 1950's weren't a standout era for boxing but it the division was not as weak as it is today. Marciano beating those guys and never taking a loss is very impressive, considering how even all time greats like Tyson and Lewis overlooked guys and lost when they were young and in their 20's.

I don't think Marciano was the best fighter ever, but a top ten heavyweight unquestionably. You don't go undefeated at 49-0 while facing world class competition, including several HOFers, without possessing many special traits.

[The Surgeon]

He was the best of his time and comparing eras is often a difficult endeavor. Was his era really that bad, or did quality fighters like Rex Layne, Carmine Vingo, ,Roland LaStarza, and other contenders become obscured by time because a rising young Rocky destroyed them and ended their careers?

Who's to say that a slicker like LaStarza doesn't give Ali a good boxing match? These were some of the best heavyweights on the planet at the time, in an era when boxing was more popular in the US and there were more gyms and more Americans competing in the sport than at present.

I would say the 1950's weren't a standout era for boxing but it the division was not as weak as it is today. Marciano beating those guys and never taking a loss is very impressive, considering how even all time greats like Tyson and Lewis overlooked guys and lost when they were young and in their 20's.

I don't think Marciano was the best fighter ever, but a top ten heavyweight unquestionably. You don't go undefeated at 49-0 while facing world class competition, including several HOFers, without possessing many special traits.

I cant see how Rocky beats a guy like Valuev. Dont get me wrong id be rootin for him, i Hate Ape Lord but its the sheer size discrepency u know. Pound4Pound those old timers were probably way better but u know they were in the same league phisiqually im sad to say. But Yeah Rocky is still a gr8 49-0, dont get that for nothin against the top fighters available.

[hhascup]

I don't think Marciano was the best fighter ever, but a top ten heavyweight unquestionably. You don't go undefeated at 49-0 while facing world class competition, including several HOFers, without possessing many special traits.

Actually he faced a total of 4 Hall of Famers, Louis, Walcott, Charles and Moore. Each of them were past their prime, BUT I agree that you have to rate him in the top 10 all times just by going with his record..

Back in 1999 they had the unveiling of the Rocky Marciano Stamp at the Rocky Marciano Gym in Jersey City, New Jersey. Lou Marciano was a part owner of the gym with Al Certo, and they asked me to MC the affair. Several days later I also MC'ed the unveiling of the Joe Louis Memorial Park Monument in Pompton Lakes New Jersey.

[Lubutheimmortal]

Yes,....I am about to repeat what's already been said, but least I've threw in my two cents for today. Rocky M is a true legend, and shall be remebered. A great man outside the ring as he was in. Undefeated,....perfection in the number sense. He fought whatever was there, even if it wasnt much of anything. But in the end of the day no one picks what given to them,...you just do what you got to do with what you have, and it's not your fault what you was given to work with. Just do the best with what you have, and thats exactly what Rock did,...the best with what he had. Could he of beaten Foreman -Ali? I don't know, I only know that 49 - 0 is something to be cherished for years and years to come.

[brownpimp88]

Marciano is way better than a guy like dempsey but, holmes and foreman would have beaten him.

[Kid Achilles]

A guy like Dempsey? Dempsey was a great heavyweight. He cleaned out the division before he became champ, had one of the greatest runs of any heavyweight ever prior to winning the title from Willard.

[butterfly1964]

Marciano is way better than a guy like dempsey but, holmes and foreman would have beaten him.

Marciano is overrated. Dempsey was IMO better. He had better hand and foot speed, a better defense, good boxing skills, and a better puncher.