Why Didn't Jeffries Give Sharkey Another Title Shot?

[Bronson66]

I disagree.

He had two shots at Jeffries. One to decide who gets the Fitzsimmons fight. The second one was Jeffries first defense. Sharkey got what he deserved.

Just because people howl anout a decision does not get you an automatic title fight. Ask Ali in '71 if that's tradition. It's not.

Even Dempsey had to prove he deserved another shot at Tunney.

Finding a few newspaper guys who support a Sharkey decision isn't enough.

There was Corbett to fight and the easy fight was his championship right.

We will have to agree to ...

Jeffries got over $30,000 for fighting Sharkey and $15,000 for fighting Corbett.Corbett had lost his two fights the last one to Sharkey,and he hadn't won a fight for 6 years! How was Corbett even a contender?

Dempsey had to prove he deserved another shot at Tunney because he was never in their fight! That's rather different to the Sharkey v Jeffries battle!
How about Jeffries promising to give Sharkey first chance for his next defence?

I guess that meant as much as it did when he said the same thing after Fitzsimmons ko'd Sharkey and Ruhlin in the space of two weeks and then made Fitz wait 2 years for his title chance!

[QueensburyRules]

- - Jeff fought Sharkey before he won the title vs Fitz, so he gave Sharkey and fans the rematch to win an uncontested decision...yup...

[Bronson66]

Jeffries beat Fitz, Sharkey, and Corbett with a 2 year span! And gave each man a re-match!

This is equivalent for any legacy champion beating their best opponents in two years and fighting them not once, but twice. Try that hat on for size.

I do not know of ANY fighter who has done that before or since.

WOW

Jeffries beat Fitz in Jun 1899, but did not defend against him until July `1902 A 3 years gap . Why was that? Instead he defended against 2 men Fitz had kod' Corbett in14 rds who when he got a shot at Jeffries hadn't won a fight for 6 years, but still got a title shot .

Ruhlin whom Fitz had ko'd in 8rds ,a year before Ruhlin got his title shot?

Who deserved the title shot Fitz or the 2 men he had ko'd who both got them in his place?
Jeffries took 23 rounds to stop and older Corbett Fitz ko'd a prime Corbett in14 rds.
Jeffries beat Ruhlin when Gus retired/quit fully conscious .Before that fight , Fitz had ko'd Ruhlin putting him in a sick bed for2 weeks with a Doctor tending him for24 hours at MSG after the fight in case he died.

Fitz twice ko'd Sharkey Jeffries couldn't do it.
Why did Jeffries take so long to defend against Fitzsimmons?

Surely Fitz had earned his shot when he ko'd the other 2 leading contenders Ruhlin and Sharkey in the space of 2 weeks in1900 ! Why did he have to wait a further 2 years after clearing out the division before they fought again?Two years later by which time he was nearly 40!

Try that on for size!

[Marchegiano]

Jeffries beat Fitz in Jun 1899, but did not defend against him until July `1902 A 3 years gap . Why was that? Instead he defended against 2 men Fitz had kod' Corbett in14 rds who when he got a shot at Jeffries hadn't won a fight for 6 years, but still got a title shot .

Ruhlin whom Fitz had ko'd in 8rds ,a year before Ruhlin got his title shot?

Who deserved the title shot Fitz or the 2 men he had ko'd who both got them in his place?
Jeffries took 23 rounds to stop and older Corbett Fitz ko'd a prime Corbett in14 rds.
Jeffries beat Ruhlin when Gus retired/quit fully conscious .Before that fight , Fitz had ko'd Ruhlin putting him in a sick bed for2 weeks with a Doctor tending him for24 hours at MSG after the fight in case he died.

Fitz twice ko'd Sharkey Jeffries couldn't do it.
Why did Jeffries take so long to defend against Fitzsimmons?

Surely Fitz had earned his shot when he ko'd the other 2 leading contenders Ruhlin and Sharkey in the space of 2 weeks in1900 ! Why did he have to wait a further 2 years after clearing out the division before they fought again?Two years later by which time he was nearly 40!

Try that on for size!

I don't think I can confidently give a why for you, but I can confidently say James Corbett and Bob Fitzsimmons were much more popular boxers, especially Jim. So, If I was looking for whys I'd first look at the money.

[Bronson66]

I don't think I can confidently give a why for you, but I can confidently say James Corbett and Bob Fitzsimmons were much more popular boxers, especially Jim. So, If I was looking for whys I'd first look at the money.

Jeffries got $15,000 for defending against Corbett,less than half that he got for defending against Sharkey.

Jeffries and Ruhlin split the following.The gate was over $40,000.

• The fighters received 62½ percent of the gate, which was divided 75 percent to 25 percent in favor of the champion.
• Jeffries was a 2 to 1 favorite.
• So Jeffries made more from the Sharkey fight,than either of his defences against Corbett and Ruhlin,hardly surprising since Sharkey had beaten them both.
• Popular?
• "The fight was the greatest betting affair of any heavyweight contest that was ever fought in this country."The New York Times
• Ringside seats were $ 35 a pop and $68,000 went through the turnstiles .
• George Siler the referee had to have a police escort to take him back to the safety of the dressing rooms.
• Jeffries had $8000 on himself to win at odds of10/7
• Martin Dowling had $10,000 on Jeffries
• Charley Anderson had $3000 on Jeffries against a 4 man Sharkey syndicate who put up,$2,180
• Bottom line Jeffries defended against two men that Sharkey had beaten and gave Sharkey a swerve.

[Bronson66]

- - Jeff fought Sharkey before he won the title vs Fitz, so he gave Sharkey and fans the rematch to win an uncontested decision...yup...

Shut up silly bollocks,the adults are talking.

[Dr Z]

Jeffries beat Fitz in Jun 1899, but did not defend against him until July `1902 A 3 years gap . Why was that? Instead he defended against 2 men Fitz had kod' Corbett in14 rds who when he got a shot at Jeffries hadn't won a fight for 6 years, but still got a title shot .

Ruhlin whom Fitz had ko'd in 8rds ,a year before Ruhlin got his title shot?

Who deserved the title shot Fitz or the 2 men he had ko'd who both got them in his place?
Jeffries took 23 rounds to stop and older Corbett Fitz ko'd a prime Corbett in14 rds.
Jeffries beat Ruhlin when Gus retired/quit fully conscious .Before that fight , Fitz had ko'd Ruhlin putting him in a sick bed for2 weeks with a Doctor tending him for24 hours at MSG after the fight in case he died.

Fitz twice ko'd Sharkey Jeffries couldn't do it.
Why did Jeffries take so long to defend against Fitzsimmons?

Surely Fitz had earned his shot when he ko'd the other 2 leading contenders Ruhlin and Sharkey in the space of 2 weeks in1900 ! Why did he have to wait a further 2 years after clearing out the division before they fought again?Two years later by which time he was nearly 40!

Try that on for size!

Jeffries fogut them! He did not duck his top competion while champion, unlike some of his other champions after him. No names mentioned ... You oughta know that by now , but just in case dementia strikes, I can aid you if needed.

You are such a dolt. Jeffries KO'd Ruhlin faster than Fitz did. He did rematch Fitz, but Corbett, Sharkey and Ruhlin three top contenders came before the rematch.

You hat is too small for me. No thank you. You must have a small one with a low IQ, now be gone.

[Dr Z]

I don't think I can confidently give a why for you, but I can confidently say James Corbett and Bob Fitzsimmons were much more popular boxers, especially Jim. So, If I was looking for whys I'd first look at the money.

If you read the papers of the times, Fitz was a tough man to negotiate with.

[Bronson66]

If you read the papers of the times, Fitz was a tough man to negotiate with.

If you read thoroughly researched biographies of both Jeffries and Fitzsimmons,you would know that after koing both Ruhlin and Sharkey in the space of two weeks,Fitz leaned over the ropes and said to Jeffries sitting ringside, "you will give me a fight now ,won't you Jeff?"
"Get up and shake on it"
Jeffries, after some hesitation and cat calls from the crowd stood up and shook Fitz's hand.
The only trouble was ,it took him two years to get round to fighting Fitz,by which time Bob nearly 40!
The fact that Fitz smashed Jeffries face to a pulp before his hands gave out on him proves Jeffries wasn't as dumb as he looked!

[Bronson66]

Jeffries fogut them! He did not duck his top competion while champion, unlike some of his other champions after him. No names mentioned ... You oughta know that by now , but just in case dementia strikes, I can aid you if needed.

You are such a dolt. Jeffries KO'd Ruhlin faster than Fitz did. He did rematch Fitz, but Corbett, Sharkey and Ruhlin three top contenders came before the rematch.

You hat is too small for me. No thank you. You must have a small one with a low IQ, now be gone.

Fitz WAS the top competition in1900 he had ko'd both Sharkey and Ruhlin inside 14 days something Jeffries could not do.
Name a fighter who deserved a title shot more than Fitz in1900.
Tell us how Corbett who had not won a fight for6 years was a top contender?
Tell us how Ruhlin deserved a title shot before Fitz who had beaten the **** out of him?

Fact Jeffries NEVER ko'd Ruhlin. Ruhlin quit fully conscious on his stool and this was AFTER Fitz had nearly killed Ruhlin.

The idea that you could educate anyone on boxing is absurd!
At least my warning about your unsavoury posting hit home,so that's a positive!

Dementia? I'll still have more brain cells and facts at my disposal than you when I'm 90! LOL