A time machine that could actually deliver and tell us who would win mythical match ups... Is it more of a reality than we think?!

[QueensburyRules]

- -Crickets...

[Willie Pep 229]

- -Hello Kittybilleau been on the disabled list since being flattened by an auto, truck, or scooter, I never got he remembered the details.

Anyway, he'll be seen as a sage in Quantum development too early in the game to prevent getting run over when it counted. Such is the timing of life. Eli Whitney barely made more than a few spare dimes on his cotton gin before the big boys moved in, but he later made a fortune in war munitions by standardizing part sizes in a mass production scale that has given us ever more peace and prosperity since then... Screen-Shot-2021-06-06-at-7.30.00-PM.png

It wasn't so much the 'big boys' as it was the inability of an infant federal government to enforce copyrights/patents laws interstate.

Some years later the South Carolinian legislature voted Whitney a cash award out of sheer embarrassment over their behavior. Other Southern States didn't see fit to follow.

But as you said Whitney found the golden goose (interchangeable parts) and gave the Europeans the thing they desired most, a more efficient way to murder each other. He did financially quite well in the end.

[QueensburyRules]

It wasn't so much the 'big boys' as it was the inability of an infant federal government to enforce copyrights/patents laws interstate.

Some years later the South Carolinian legislature voted Whitney a cash award out of sheer embarrassment over their behavior. Other Southern States didn't see fit to follow.

But as you said Whitney found the golden goose (interchangeable parts) and gave the Europeans the thing they desired most, a more efficient way to murder each other. He did financially quite well in the end.

- -Keep in mind Eli just a young Yankee kid visiting his sister or other relative who married into a planation estate. The irony was that slavery in America had been dying a slow death by then, but then boom, Cotton and ****** became more valuable than gold in providing the growing Yankee and European fabrics industry. So Eli blamed for the explosion of slavery, and then the Civil war where his munitions proved quite deadly. Something like over 10% of the American population was left dead, disabled, or impoverished for life as was the US economy now in shambles with their #1 industry in ruins.

Gutenberg had to go in as partners with a well heeled German financier to get his printing press rolling, so after various improvements to his nascent invention had almost instantly revolutionized Europe society by making Bibles and other media available to the common folk, why he was booted out of the biz as the financier replaced him with an easier to manage relative. Eventually he was granted a stipend by an appreciative Baron of yearly gold ration along with tons of grain and wine he could sell on the market, so he ended up at least provided for though long forgotten in nanosecond attention spans then and now...

[HOUDINI563]

If developed its accuracy could be easily determined. Input bouts hundreds of bouts that actually occurred and see if the computer output matches the actual result.

[billeau2]

Modern science can do it. They have the technology.

As far as I am concerned? When they made the Bionic women they made the perfect teenage male ***** extracting machine...

[billeau2]

If developed its accuracy could be easily determined. Input bouts hundreds of bouts that actually occurred and see if the computer output matches the actual result.

Thats what I have been saying. It is what you do when you trade... If your using certain technical indicators you look back to see how accurate you are... Back trading.

Quantum computers may answer the question regarding many market hypothesis and even human nature... Is there such a thing as "random" or can anything, with enough probability indicators, be predicted? I spent many years talking to fellow philosophy junkies about all kinds of artificial intelligence, cognative models for such... But one of the smartest individuals was a dear friend who dropped out of High School on the Eastern Shore of Maryland. he uses to tell me he could beat the lottery based on certain odds set up... and he did...Often!

It turns out that Quantum theory and probability is relatively simple: Every event has a probability of occuring. With enough information on probability a computer can teach itself, and be predictive in ways that computers before could not. Its really scary to think where this can go.

[billeau2]

OK if we are going to go full alien space bats . . . what if Ali is abducted and analy probed by aliens and consequently develops an inside game. He would be unbeatable. Will your computer adjust for alien interventions?

More importantly (not) what about ancient aliens, will your computer tell us if the nerd white guy with the Don King hair has been right all along?

So thats what makes things different: In the past given analog com*****g, the system was reduced to a binery function which limits speed... To actually see the probability of something rare would take an incredible amount of calculations. A quantum computer is designed in form and function to give 3 alternatives, as opposed to two (binery) and to do so the way an electron actually moves and is recognized. This speed and the learning that takes place, means that even something whimsical can be considered as a probability and compared with all other possible outcomes.

Its complicated because when people talk about odds, they don't usually have much information. You are at a roulette table, you know you are playing a number that has not come up for a long time... But do you know the life of the mechanism, how many times that ball has dropped? the tendencies of the person operating the machine? etc. Its similar to when scientists talk about the chances of life in the Universe knowing so little... As crazy as it seems, there is a probabiity that during a heavyweight fight, a parachutist will come down, piss off one of the fighters, etc. You know what I am referring to (Bowe Holly fight).

[billeau2]

For anyone with an interest: David Hume to many was the "Muhammed Ali" of philosophy. Did he presage the advent of Quantum theory? he couldn't know about the technology... But he did tell us that what we think of as a rationale deduction and reason for an occurance is essentially wrong. We only know that things will occur again through experiencing them enought times in the past. His two famous examples were: How we really know the sun will set tomorrow... Not due to celestial mechanics, but... to having experienced the sun rise every day ad infinitum. Or, why a billiard shot will hit a ball in the pocket... we can explain it as geometry but we KNOW what will happen because everytime that ball hits acertain way, the other ball goes in the pocket.

Hume called it empiriscism as opposed to rationality... But isn't it also probability? Hence, we know what we know because of probability... experience and logic only tell us WHY we might know something. So if we learn through probability... And a computer with vastly superior guaging and resources involving determining such... can teach itself when calculating probable outcomes, which is what we do... WE ARE IN TROUBLE! I mean someone tell me why this isn't really scary... I should have known Kant didn't really put Hume in his place...

[Willie Pep 229]

For anyone with an interest: David Hume to many was the "Muhammed Ali" of philosophy. Did he presage the advent of Quantum theory? he couldn't know about the technology... But he did tell us that what we think of as a rationale deduction and reason for an occurance is essentially wrong. We only know that things will occur again through experiencing them enought times in the past. His two famous examples were: How we really know the sun will set tomorrow... Not due to celestial mechanics, but... to having experienced the sun rise every day ad infinitum. Or, why a billiard shot will hit a ball in the pocket... we can explain it as geometry but we KNOW what will happen because everytime that ball hits acertain way, the other ball goes in the pocket.

Hume called it empiriscism as opposed to rationality... But isn't it also probability? Hence, we know what we know because of probability... experience and logic only tell us WHY we might know something. So if we learn through probability... And a computer with vastly superior guaging and resources involving determining such... can teach itself when calculating probable outcomes, which is what we do... WE ARE IN TROUBLE! I mean someone tell me why this isn't really scary... I should have known Kant didn't really put Hume in his place...

I'll tell you . . .

Because I'm 66 years old and by the time this shlt goes down I'II be long gone.

It's not scary if it's someone else the robot is going to spank.

But I agree with you . . . and from this very limited perspective (mine) the only solution is a philosophical line in the sand . . . Don't make the machine.

Make it . . . everything we know today, says we will lose control of it. Maybe we will understand it better a generation from now, a different perspective that can see something we can't recognize now.

But if we let our better judgement follow our unbridled science, we're going down a rabbit hole we not not come out of

WAIT! - didn't some as shole like me say the same thing 60 years ago about gene slicing?

Maybe I am just getting old.

[billeau2]

I'll tell you . . .

Because I'm 66 years old and by the time this shlt goes down I'II be long gone.

It's not scary if it's someone else the robot is going to spank.

But I agree with you . . . and from this very limited perspective (mine) the only solution is a philosophical line in the sand . . . Don't make the machine.

Make it . . . everything we know today, says we will lose control of it. Maybe we will understand it better a generation from now, a different perspective that can see something we can't recognize now.

But if we let our better judgement follow our unbridled science, we're going down a rabbit hole we not not come out of

WAIT! - didn't some as shole like me say the same thing 60 years ago about gene slicing?

Maybe I am just getting old.

Just don't know when its possible to put the Genie back in the bottle... AS far as my thinking goes? we need to be expanding, learning about this thing Einstein and Neuton call Gravity? Is it a particle? Get technology that science fiction says we need... We always do follow our science fiction writers...vis a vis create some distance in the Universe... so if one planet blows, we can have a place for our dogs! lol.