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    #11
    Originally posted by GhostofDempsey View Post
    It would only be as reliable as the data entered by humans. We all know how unreliable that can be. Especially if math nerds who aren’t boxing fans are entering said data. The intangibles and nuances of each fighter could never be fully captured.
    I actually think that changes when we can simulate and physically do game theory, quantum decision making as a technology. the computer will know the possibilities that a nerd programs in and teach itself that the chance Frazier beats Sam Peter with a right cross is statisticaly inferior to the chance a left hook seals the deal. after a proper baseline it won't much matter what the nerds plug in. Data changes when every possible analog (not simply "either, or") can be true. It is automatically prioritized. Joe Frazier becomes a set of possibilities that all have a possible outcome, some greater than others... the computer could literally use these outcomes to create joe Frazier. Its quite scary!

    Did you know there is actually a probability that you and Travesty could become best friends? If I plugged that in to predict your next post to him a Quantum computer would extrapolate the stratistical likelihood of this and infer from it that there is a small small chance of this. Lol. This would tell the computer the greater probability based on all the other data extrapolated about both of you as posters.

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      #12
      Forget boxing, if I follow what you are suggesting (good chance I'm not ) this computer should then be able to accurately predict the future.

      Be able to predict the 'butterfly effect' ??? - a butterfly flaps its wings in Wuhan and a trillion interactions later Ms Wilson's 7th grade class in Spokane watches a biology film strip on butterflies, on Tuesday, because her married lover's wife always visits her mother on Monday night and Wilson is usually shagged-out come Tuesday morning.

      This computer will be that crazy guy from A Beautiful Mind's wet dream.

      You seem to be getting dangerously close to this thing thinking; not good.

      We may be best served designing only 'dumb bots' -- computers that can only solve one task. To paraphrase Neil DeGrasseTyson - we wont design a robot that can drive our cars and do our taxes. We'll design a car that drives itself and another that does accounting.

      Seriously speaking maybe we will chose not to make your computer it may be too dangerous; ah but that's the 'wonderful thing' about cold wars we may have to create it even though we didn't have to create it. E.g. There never was a missile gap until we created it by making sure we closed the missile gap that we were certain was, but wasn't, there.

      I don't like your computer much. You will kill Sports Book Betting that's for sure.

      In fact would there ever again be any point in watching a prize fight? Just hoping for the rare anomaly isn't going to hold an audience for very long. You will destroy the NBA, NFL, and MLB all in one swoop. ( I left out the NHL, that's already dead; the damn Stanley Cup was on ESPN II for Christ's sake.)
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        #13
        Unless the computer can measure heart, along with fight time unknowns, like an illness or injury, the possibility of upset of the century, becoming upset of the month is a "definite possibility".

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          #14
          - -Hello Kitty billeau finding the replays of him and Kerouac and Ginsberg belly bucking...priceless

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            #15
            Originally posted by Willie Pep 229 View Post
            Forget boxing, if I follow what you are suggesting (good chance I'm not ) this computer should then be able to accurately predict the future.

            Be able to predict the 'butterfly effect' ??? - a butterfly flaps its wings in Wuhan and a trillion interactions later Ms Wilson's 7th grade class in Spokane watches a biology film strip on butterflies, on Tuesday, because her married lover's wife always visits her mother on Monday night and Wilson is usually shagged-out come Tuesday morning.

            This computer will be that crazy guy from A Beautiful Mind's wet dream.

            You seem to be getting dangerously close to this thing thinking; not good.

            We may be best served designing only 'dumb bots' -- computers that can only solve one task. To paraphrase Neil DeGrasseTyson - we wont design a robot that can drive our cars and do our taxes. We'll design a car that drives itself and another that does accounting.

            Seriously speaking maybe we will chose not to make your computer it may be too dangerous; ah but that's the 'wonderful thing' about cold wars we may have to create it even though we didn't have to create it. E.g. There never was a missile gap until we created it by making sure we closed the missile gap that we were certain was, but wasn't, there.

            I don't like your computer much. You will kill Sports Book Betting that's for sure.

            In fact would there ever again be any point in watching a prize fight? Just hoping for the rare anomaly isn't going to hold an audience for very long. You will destroy the NBA, NFL, and MLB all in one swoop. ( I left out the NHL, that's already dead; the damn Stanley Cup was on ESPN II for Christ's sake.)
            Dude... you are going exactly where this took me... The really really crazy thing is in this way of operating every time the computer scales the outcome of anything... it is teaching itself. So, even if you tried to program obsolescence on some level, like when they design appliances these days... the computer would see right through it. I agree with you... I just don't much believe we can step back once we open Pandora's box... Quantum computers are coming.

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              #16
              Originally posted by dreamroom View Post
              Unless the computer can measure heart, along with fight time unknowns, like an illness or injury, the possibility of upset of the century, becoming upset of the month is a "definite possibility".
              It kind of can... If you really think about it it is terrifying because everything... every action we take is based on probabilities which ultimately are predictable. Your thinking like a human being... to us we cannot possibly have enough data to predict something like "David Haye stubbed his toe and had to pull out of a fight" but you have to understand that if there is any probability of such a thing happening, with enough data about David Haye, his toe, his schedule, his life, what he said to his mother 20 years ago... These things can actually be predicted. its complicated but with information about enough outcomes? virtually anything can be predicted. Quantum physics is ironic in that it deals with small things that look random, when in fact given how our actual observation of such an event determines outcomes, and how many times an event happens... a computer with enough information held might concevibly be able to tell you how heart, and other supposed unknowns are predicated and predictive of an outcome.

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                #17
                Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post
                - -Hello Kitty billeau finding the replays of him and Kerouac and Ginsberg belly bucking...priceless
                Thankfully it does not take any computer, even an old pre DOS to know that you will spew crap at any given moment. You have not posted anything relevant, insightful, correct in years now... Thats sad. So instead you have conversations with yourself on old threads you pull up, and just show what an imbecile you are...

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by billeau2 View Post

                  Thankfully it does not take any computer, even an old pre DOS to know that you will spew crap at any given moment. You have not posted anything relevant, insightful, correct in years now... Thats sad. So instead you have conversations with yourself on old threads you pull up, and just show what an imbecile you are...
                  At this rate you and Queen may need to settle this with a good ole fashion exhibition (49.99 price tag to forum members)

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by markusmod View Post

                    At this rate you and Queen may need to settle this with a good ole fashion exhibition (49.99 price tag to forum members)
                    Lets just load our data! I don't think Quantum Computers deal with negative numbers so Queenies IQ might be a problem....

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by markusmod View Post

                      At this rate you and Queen may need to settle this with a good ole fashion exhibition (49.99 price tag to forum members)
                      - -Hello Kittybilleau been on the disabled list since being flattened by an auto, truck, or scooter, I never got he remembered the details.

                      Anyway, he'll be seen as a sage in Quantum development too early in the game to prevent getting run over when it counted. Such is the timing of life. Eli Whitney barely made more than a few spare dimes on his cotton gin before the big boys moved in, but he later made a fortune in war munitions by standardizing part sizes in a mass production scale that has given us ever more peace and prosperity since then... Screen-Shot-2021-06-06-at-7.30.00-PM.png

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