As a black man,I have come to the realization that I am discriminated for being black

[Beercules]

I remember during recruit training, all the black kids couldn't swim




And I swear I'm not being racist. Most of the recruit who failed swim qual were black

[PRINCEKOOL]

[man down]

My neighbor is black. His home is valued at 650k hmm how did he get the loan? Must be his white wife huh? Lol


This **** is crazy. Bankers will take advantage of you no matter the color. Just like when you go buy a car. I suggest you shop your rate. Shoot anymore you can get a home, car loan online. No one even sees your race.

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LMAO. "Compensation"???? Did you really type that? lol. Dude.

I don't watch TV besides sports, movies, and docs...maybe a few series here and there, so I feel you. But if you didn't want to watch it, all you had to do was say so. But I have no idea how me reading a book would compensate you somehow. lol. It's not like it would give you your time back or anything.




Ok. Well then I'll take back asking you to watch the documentary.

Here's more or less a synapsis that you can read. Now you let me know why these kids had to go through this if America is so great for black folks.

I'm sure I didn't absorb every critical detail from that summary (plus a wiki article), and heavily publicized crimes where the police simply want a perpetrator sentenced ASAP to appease the media have always sickened me.

I also don't doubt racial bias was involved. I would be insulting my own intelligence if I said their blackness wasn't an apparent factor. It always will be. If there's even a 50/50 chance that a group of other-race men came into your town and gang-****d a woman who looks just like your sister, your blood is going to boil, random citizen or veteran prosecutor, white or black.

If that group is stereotypically attached to high rates of ****/gang-**** you might have a nail in the coffin due to innate flaws in human psychology...

However...

You also can't expect me to take the emotions derived from a single case in a single region of the country and treat it as evidence of overall systematic oppression/bias/etc towards a group who remain generally very successful by global standards and still very much on the delivering end of interracial violence. I tend to stick with overall patterns and potential underlying causes.

Have you read about Ruby Ridge? A hermity/religious family moved to a small town in Idaho where a a group of white separatist families fleeing the ethnic upheaval in the rest of the country also lived. They were invited to an event but Randy Weaver only showed minor interest, was more the vanilla conspiracy type, saw some messed up stuff in Vietnam, grew to hate the US government.

The FBI illegally entrapped him by having a planted informant ask him to do them a friendly favor by sawing down their ******* barrel (instantly making him a felon). They gave him a choice between a lengthy prison sentence -OR- being forced to join the local white separatist organization as a spy, endangering the lives of his family.

He turned down both and knew the whole thing would fall apart in court but you don't just ignore a bunch of FBI/US Marshalls with helicopters and night vision goggles. They started sending armed personnel to scout his ranch and accidentally ran into his dog/son (both killed in a firefight). In the ensuing military-style invasion, his wife was sniped with a .308 while holding their child in her arms by the window.

Similar to the case you linked, the government eventually admitted everything they did was totally illegal, they just needed a random head on a spike to appease the media about these **** social menaces. Which head didn't really matter. They paid out a couple million dollars to the surviving members of the family, like that makes up for it.

Should I ask you to read a story like that and consider it evidence that there is overall systematic oppression of Caucasians in the developed world?

Or are these stories reasons to:

- Understand the power public/regional hysteria: NYC really did have a black crime problem and Idaho really did have white separatist compounds, so the public was ready to burn any witch with or without due process. By cheering it on and throwing some random in jail, they "did their part". My sister was accused of looking like a ********* in school after 9/11 (in a majority Hispanic district) to the point of bursting out crying and refusing to go back -- not because of systematic top-down oppression but because of reflexive animal hysteria.

- Individualism is an ideal but not a mechanic of reality. We all socially pay for the sins of people who look like us. Black guys struggle with their reputation of being ready to kill/**** you at the drop of a hat and I can assure you white men struggle every day shaking the pvssy/cuck/hippie reputation of their parents generation and wanting to be respected. This is not systematic, it is the tragic generational lag of human psychology.

- Understand that the government is just a bunch of guys. It isn't an effective or scientific mechanism for social justice. If the media starts making them feel like their jobs are on the line if they don't put a head on a spike, then that's what they'll do.

[BigStomps]

What dont you "know" about the "other stuff"?

My grandparents are still alive to this very day to tell me that they were sprayed with water hoses and had police dogs sicked on them all because whites didn't want to give them equality under any circumstances. There is plenty of video on the internet to show policemen spraying black adults and black children with water hoses.

And no.... I know for a fact I was discriminated by being offered a higher interest loan. I had a white coworker who made exactly the same amount I did, but his scores were a little lower (about 25 points), we both had the same debt to income ratio and the lending company gave him a lower interest rate.

There is actually a very thorough study online that shows black people on average are discriminated by lending companies by being offered higher interest loans than non-blacks despite having virtually the same credentials.

Quit lying punk!
You one of them lames who screams racism everytime you don't get what you want or feel you're entitled to,....
Miss me with that bullshet!

[JimRaynor]

I already have. I know a few others who have done the same.

Look man. I just want to be treated equally and fairly. I have done nothing wrong. I don't have a criminal record, I get up early in the morning and work my azz off and pay my taxes just like every one else.

Just sick of being discriminated against. My money is just as green as the next mans.

Also take into account that the business of lending loans is also the business of sales. The higher rate they can get you to agree to the better commission check they get. Giving you a higher rate can be much less race related as money motivated. Next time take feelings out of it and negotiate with them, explain how your friend with a worse score got a better rate, and ask them not only are you looking for them to match the rate your friend got, but get one even better since you have better credentials than your friend, and watch how things suddenly change in your favor.

I went in a couple of weeks ago to lease a car for my wife, my sales lady who happened to be black shot me a rate of $340 a month. I took that rate shopped around and said look I am getting this same vehicle for $250 at other places, can you match the $250 a month? If so you have yourself a deal, if not then I am afraid I am going to have to give someone else the business. Sure enough she match the $250 a month rate. However, not once did I think her offering me $340 was because I was white, I understood from the get go that it was always about the money and her trying to maximize her commission on me.

[boxingfan91]

How are his own people holding him back?

Killin each other at higher rate than any other race, high crime rates, etc...

[GGG Gloveking]

Quit lying punk!
You one of them lames who screams racism everytime you don't get what you want or feel you're entitled to,....
Miss me with that bullshet!

[GhostofDempsey]

This is obviously a troll post from a fat white guy in his mom’s basement.

[man down]

Also take into account that the business of lending loans is also the business of sales. The higher rate they can get you to agree to the better commission check they get. Giving you a higher rate can be much less race related as money motivated. Next time take feelings out of it and negotiate with them, explain how your friend with a worse score got a better rate, and ask them not only are you looking for them to match the rate your friend got, but get one even better since you have better credentials than your friend, and watch how things suddenly change in your favor.

I went in a couple of weeks ago to lease a car for my wife, my sales lady who happened to be black shot me a rate of $340 a month. I took that rate shopped around and said look I am getting this same vehicle for $250 at other places, can you match the $250 a month? If so you have yourself a deal, if not then I am afraid I am going to have to give someone else the business. Sure enough she match the $250 a month rate. However, not once did I think her offering me $340 was because I was white, I understood from the get go that it was always about the money and her trying to maximize her commission on me.

I get your point. First thing you did wrong is you are a payment buyer.
Tell them the term and rate you want. If you get that everything else works out. Never fall for that payment crap on their 4 square paper.

We serviced dealerships and the stories I could tell ya would blow your hair back. " I just scored a eight pounder!" Yeah that means they made 8k off a person. They will **** whoever's they can.