Death Penalty For Treason?

[Rostov Papa]

The only thing the death penalty really accomplishes is revenge. Murder is wrong but two wrongs don't make it right and sends the wrong message. The death penalty is horrible and should be abolished in America.

Actually, no, it could accomplish a plethora of objectives (if carried out properly). And it would definitely accomplish one very important objective.

However, I agree, the way it is currently carried out in USA, makes it worthless, and doesn't do much aside from possibly satisfy the victim's family - although even that probably isn't true, seeing how it could take 20 years, and some of hte family could be dead by then.

But if it was carried out quickly, and swiftly, then we really don't know all that it would acocmplish.

The MOST important aspect, should be deterrence - "Does it deter future murders? Will it serve as a measure to make a potential murderer say "oh ****, I don't wanna murder this person! I could be executed"!

However, one objective it would definitely accomplish: Exponentially reduce the cost of housing a prisoner (which can run in the millions). Imagne what we could do with all that tax money saved?

[VatoMulatto]

I think life imprisonment is a worse fate than death.

One form of punishment takes your life in an instant, while you're still you.

The other takes your life in a slow prolonged manner, killing all the parts of yourself incrementally until you become an institutionalized animal with none of the rights of a human being, until one day you look in the mirror, an old, withering ghost with no traces of who you used to be.

Oh and you'll most likely have ****ed a few dudes too. I'd rather get the chair, and spit in the face of the system right before I go, laughing in rebellious fury.

A life without a future, a life without hope is infinitely worse than the sweet sleep of death and glory of martyrdom.

Unless you're a psychopath you would not be laughing in rebellious fury if you would be placed in that flucking chair. I can't even imagine what would go through my mind the moment before the system put me to sleep forever. That must be some scary ****.

You learn to adjust and adapt and the hope to stay alive never really goes away. I don't think you can find many people who's locked up for life that would love to impose a death sentence instead and be put on Death Row....However the death row inmates would do anything to escape the death penalty.

[VatoMulatto]

if some dirt bag hurt one my kids revenge is all I would want

two negatives will always add up to a positive

Of coure but that's your personal feelings. We still live in a society where there are rules and laws that we have to follow. Murder is always a crime so when the government play God and kill those punks they commit the same horrible crime and are just as bad.

[VatoMulatto]

Actually, no, it could accomplish a plethora of objectives (if carried out properly). And it would definitely accomplish one very important objective.

However, I agree, the way it is currently carried out in USA, makes it worthless, and doesn't do much aside from possibly satisfy the victim's family - although even that probably isn't true, seeing how it could take 20 years, and some of hte family could be dead by then.

But if it was carried out quickly, and swiftly, then we really don't know all that it would acocmplish.

The MOST important aspect, should be deterrence - "Does it deter future murders? Will it serve as a measure to make a potential murderer say "oh ****, I don't wanna murder this person! I could be executed"!

However, one objective it would definitely accomplish: Exponentially reduce the cost of housing a prisoner (which can run in the millions). Imagne what we could do with all that tax money saved?

So, how do you feel about the fact that the death penalty has claimed the lives of many wrongly convicted civilians due to police misconduct, faulty/withheld evidence, poor defense, false accusations, racial bias...etc. There are inmates on Death Row right now that didn't do the crime. It's not possible to create a system that works perfectly so there will always a lot of innocent people that will be put to death.

[BattlingNelson]

No. I dont believe in the death penalty at all.

[gingeralbino]

these ****s want to die.

why grant them their wish if u have a choice?

lock them up in solitary confinement for 200 years so they cant radicalise other inmates who have a release date they might live to see



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[-jose-]

Of coure but that's your personal feelings. We still live in a society where there are rules and laws that we have to follow. Murder is always a crime so when the government play God and kill those punks they commit the same horrible crime and are just as bad.

I could sleep better knowing that a murderer is six feet under than still breathing the same air I'm breathing, yeah you could say that's my and millions of others personal feeling

[Rostov Papa]

So, how do you feel about the fact that the death penalty has claimed the lives of many wrongly convicted civilians due to police misconduct, faulty/withheld evidence, poor defense, false accusations, racial bias...etc. There are inmates on Death Row right now that didn't do the crime. It's not possible to create a system that works perfectly so there will always a lot of innocent people that will be put to death.

Can you prove they are innocent? Or can you prove an innocent man was convicted and sentenced to death?

And if you read what I said - I said "the way USA carries out the death penalty now" is worthless, and wrong.

The system needs to be overhauled.

But I think there should be death penalty reserved for the most henious, odious, and violent of crimes. Including treason that results in the death of many.

[Rostov Papa]

I understand 100% why people are against the death penalty...

But for those who lose family members, and loved ones in horrible, violent murders, I think they should have a say-so in whether or not the perpetrator is executed.

[Rostov Papa]

I'm also a big cost-analysis guy. So if we can save taxpayers millions by offing some murderous, violent scum, rather than pay to have him get three hots, a cot, library access, visitation access with his loved ones, etc. for 50 years, I'm all for it.

The way death penalty works now, it s actually more expensive to keep them on death row... But we could certainly save A LOT of money by doing it right.