The truth about feminism.

[Veneficus]

I believe in equal rights for women but the feminists go way overboard sometimes, but that could be said for all ideological parties in the social spectrum

I'd say most sane people in the 21st Century, born and raised in a first world country, do.

The problem is people don't feel the same way about men and their rights and are easy to dismiss male problems because "womens problems are worse" or "you're just a bitter ***ist misogynist" etc.

Feminism today in the western world has nothing to do with equality between the ***es, it's basically "equal rights when it suits us" they want to have their cake and eat it and the sad part is, that's exactly what they get to do.

[Croyd]

When is the menenist movement going to start? Being a white guy in the USA is worse than being a second class citizen.

They really should have doused the flames of the feminist movement back in the 20's.
Give em an inch , now they want equallity.
What's next , are they going to want the lid left down all the time?

[squealpiggy]

Harriet Hall isn't a feminist, she's more anti-feminist if you pay attention to the things she says, it's mostly the opposite of what feminists/SJW's believe.

Ah yes, you pointed out SJWs. Social Justice Warriors are not the same as feminists, but there is considerable overlap between the Social Justice movement and radical feminism.

Harriet Hall is definitely a feminist.

You don't mean the same Hillary Clinton who wrote this beauty do you?

I believe that comment was made in an international women's conference. In context it would have made little sense to say "Men have it worse, fuck broads".

I haven't really paid attention to Ayaan so I can't comment on her.

I will say this much though, anyone who considers themselves an open minded person that believes Feminism (As in the Western variety) is what the dictionary defines it as, hasn't educated themselves enough on the matter.

Interesting approach. Anybody who doesn't believe that feminism begins and ends at what a few mouthy internet social justice radicals spout on twitter is not sufficiently educated on the subject?

[ßringer]

When is the menenist movement going to start? Being a white guy in the USA is worse than being a second class citizen.

In what alternate reality?

[Veneficus]

Ah yes, you pointed out SJWs. Social Justice Warriors are not the same as feminists, but there is considerable overlap between the Social Justice movement and radical feminism.

They may not be the same but they go hand in hand almost all the time.

Harriet Hall is definitely a feminist.

[Citation Needed]

I believe that comment was made in an international women's conference. In context it would have made little sense to say "Men have it worse, fuck broads".

That's absolutely moronic, either way you try to spin it. She could have easily said "Women are also victims of war as they lose the men they love" but no, instead she took it a step further to crazy land and painted women as the primary victims of war, lol.

Also you cited Hillary as a rebuttal to this

On the other hand feminists paint the picture that all women are innate & eternal victims.

Considering that war quote I'd say that back fired heavily, context or not, are you really trying to say it's logical to paint women as the primary victims of war over men? Just because she's at a "international women's convention" it means she has to paint women as the innate and eternal victims feminists always paint themselves as?

Interesting approach. Anybody who doesn't believe that feminism begins and ends at what a few mouthy internet social justice radicals spout on twitter is not sufficiently educated on the subject?

Nope, anybody who believes that feminism is about true equality isn't sufficiently educated on the subject.

[Veneficus]

In what alternate reality?

Being a man in western society is most certainly second class in comparison to being a woman.

As for being white, I'm guessing he's referring to the fact that if you're white you don't receive any of the affirmative action benefits that ********** receive (women are also considered a minority under this by the way, despite there being more women than men). Then there's the whole "white racist" witch hunt that goes on every few months or so which usually involves some white guy voicing his (sometimes) bigoted/racist opinions and having his life destroyed for it.

Meanwhile Jay-Z is seen all over the place wearing Five Percenter ***elry.

[Resilient]

In what alternate reality?

Well you guys have ''affirmative action'' which is as discriminatory as it gets...

[gandhalf]

And to you the message is "Psychotic rapists are just the people we need to dispense justice".

People used to be hanged for stealing food and more serious crimes were met with torturous punishments. Despite all of this deterrence somehow there was more crime and more violence back when you could be drawn and quartered for murder.

Forget the impalment for a sec...


Singapore has one of the LOWEST crime rate on the planet (ranked 2nd , right behind switzerland).
They hang people for:
- treason
- kidnapping
- firearm offenses
- trafficking in more than 15 grams of heroin or morphine
- 30 grams of ******* or 500 grams of cannabis.

The city-state had the second highest per-capita execution rate in the world between 1994 and 1999, estimated by the UN be 13.83 , annually per hundred thousand of population during that period.

In contrast , Honduras has one of the highest crime rate on the planet. (death penalty was abolished in 1956 over there), their homicide rate = 90.4 per 100,000

Now , before you start posting opposite examples (such as Switzerland for instance , the safest on the planet , and has abolished death penalty , but let's all "able-bodied male citizens" keep fully automatic firearms at home in case of a call-up.).

Let's make something clear here...I'm not saying that death penalty solves all problems. But it evidentally has an effect or else Singapore's measures would be totally useless. And we're just talking about hanging people here , not even going medieval on their @sses.

I could also mention a bunch of countries which still apply death penalty , yet have ridiculous homicide rates. Such as: Jamaica or El Salvador. But why doesn't it work for everyone then ?

Well , when you look at El Salvador's case , they haven't executed anyone since 1973 & in Jamaica ? Same problem. They haven't executed anyone since 1988 (even though in 2012 , they had a ridiculous crime rate of 39.3 murders per 100,00). Death penalty is obviously useless if it's rarely ever used. (unlike China for instance).

You think that a gang of twenty violent rapists dispensed justice. I don't think I put words anywhere.

See , you're doing it again...
Here's what i actually said , (quoting myself):

"The guy got off easy. His sphincter will eventually heal itself. On the other hand , resuscitation is not an option for that dead kid."

In other words , i don't even think justice was served. Like i said several times already , he got off easy.
In a way , you're unintentionally painting me as a more tolerant guy than i am. (It's not like i enjoy being a cruel @sshole or anything , but i'm just saying..)

I would jail this individual for life with a minimum of twenty five years before he can apply for parole. That is not tolerant. Neither is it barbaric. It strikes a necessary balance.

Where was the necessary balance for the now dead (tortured & sodomized) , infant ?
And why would you even think of giving him the chance to apply for parole even after 25yrs ?

I mean i understand what you're saying , but i just disagree with your tolerant approach. We could discuss endlessly about this issue , but in the end , it's just a question of opinion.

Although I can vouch for the efficacy of my approach and back it up with evidence.

You can't recidivate when you're dead....You're giving them a potential chance. I don't.

My wife and I are partners in the household in every respect. You apparently feel threatened by that to the degree that you have to denigrate me as "p@ssy-whipped" (sic) because I see woman as equals to men.

Hey , good for you. I don't feel threatened by it since i don't have to deal with it. I'm pretty much the king of the house. I do my part she does her's. We get along just fine even though i'm not in charge of the cooking and cleaning. But all this "equality" marxist/feminist crap is in your head. It doesn't exist in the real world.

And never will. Why ? Because you can't escape ***ual dimorphism.

[gandhalf]

Are you sure about that? Dr Harriet Hall does that? Hillary Clinton? Ayan Hirsi-Ali?

Ayan Hirsi-Ali is a courageous woman. (i can't stand Clinton & don't know much about her stance on feminism) , but regardless , you're talking about exceptions. And like i said in my previous message , exception is not the rule. You're doing the very opposite.
You're turning a blind eye on what the majority is actually saying & doing , and you're idealizing the feminist movement.

If the phrase "women are commodities" doesn't strike you as hatred then nothing will. Replace "women" with any other identifiable group. I'll help: "Blacks are commodities". Would such a statement make you a racist? Of course it would!

It's not hatred. You're just seeing it that way because your woman is wearing the pants in the family. And obviously because you're a reality denier. The rest of your argument is ******* rhetoric.

That's what you people do , whenever you want to be right about something. Either pull the racist card or ***ist card and do ****** comparisons , or call your opponent's position "hatred". It's funny how you have a problem with "women are commodities" , & yet you have no problem with me saying that "men are living ATM machines".

[gandhalf]

Calling your ****** opinions ****** is not censorship.

Whoever said it was ? I'll tell you who...YOU! the straw man king.

I know it's very tempting , i even do it myself from time to time. Taking quotes out of context, and spinning things to make points.
Here's what i actually said:

"Enough with the censorship! in the name of "tolerance" & "equality". People have forgotten that their right to be offended doesn't stop anyone else's right to express themselves. The situation is so absurd that we're even encouraging the disuse of words like "ret@rd" , "bum" ,"bossy" , "midget" ,"illegals".

I never said or insinuated that you calling my opinion "******" was censorship. I'm all for criticism ! Unlike these girls....Who'd rather do petitions to supress words they don't like.