*********s running the show

[angelo_dundee]

The lands were those people lived before Israel was created.

[LuKahnLi]

The lands were those people lived before Israel was created.

The ***s lived there too....

[angelo_dundee]

In much lesser numbers, and were not in political power. That land has for millenia been in ****** and Arab hands. They claim is legitimate.

[LuKahnLi]

In much lesser numbers, and were not in political power. That land has for millenia been in ****** and Arab hands. They claim is legitimate.

The only reason the ***'s numbers were less was because the Roman emporer Hadrian expelled them, following an insurrection.

Also, when did ********* become a country?

[LuKahnLi]

Don't get me wrong, I really don't care about either side. But to say ONE side has a more legitimate claim than the other is ridiculous. The land has been conquered, reconquered and conquered again so many times.

If ANY OF THEIR CLAIMS are legitimate, then Italy has a legitimate claim to the land too!

[angelo_dundee]

The only reason the ***'s numbers were less was because the Roman emporer Hadrian expelled them, following an insurrection.

Also, when did ********* become a country?

********* has always been a recognized land. The Ottoman sultans who ruled the area for 6 centuries, and the ******s who ruled it before that, always gave due recognition to its people.

[LuKahnLi]

********* has always been a recognized land. The Ottoman sultans who ruled the area for 6 centuries, and the ******s who ruled it before that, always gave due recognition to its people.

I like your selective use of language. "recognized land". It became a COUNTRY in the 1920s. BTW, did you know that the Ottomans INVITED ***s into the land?

The Ottoman empire CONQUERED the land from the ******s that were there before. The ******s that were there before CONQUERED the land from the Romans. The Romans CONQUERED the land from the ***s and the Phillistines.

This "who had it first" excercise is FUTILE. NOBODY'S CLAIM IS ANY MORE LEGIT THAN ANYONE ELSE'S.

[LuKahnLi]

I use to be ANTI Isreal.....until I actually READ my history and stopped listening to this glossed pop culture version of it that people have been spreading.

[angelo_dundee]

Even that position means that Israel cannot deny the *********** claim then.

Frankly, Israel is a sore.

[LuKahnLi]

Even that position means that Israel cannot deny the *********** claim then.

Frankly, Israel is a sore.

Israel isn't denying *********'s claim. ********* is the side whose version of history says that Israel has NO claim to the land.