Religion Call !

[Bombardier]

You can do that with alcahol too.

True, true. Some girls really fall for the pothead philosopher routine, though. See Donald Sutherland's character in Animal House for details.

[LuKahnLi]

True, true. Some girls really fall for the pothead philosopher routine, though. See Donald Sutherland's character in Animal House for details.

Yeah, that was hilarious. But it shouldn't really count. Otter was a bit of a douchebag.

[The Noose]

Tough titty, at least according to the religion. Yes, they do need to "except" Jesus. How's that not nice? At least according to the Bible: Dems da rules. If ya don't like em, you can go to hell, and that's your right. Faith is an important thing in this world, and people have lost sight of that, apparently. But I know, it's not "nice", so they all should go to heaven.

It sounds like the christian god is a petty liitle bitter man.

There are many great decent people who are going to hell according to the christian faith.

Seems like god is a bit of a twat!

[jabsRstiff]

The "God" that created this world has definitely moved on to more interesting things.
We're on our own.

[LuKahnLi]

It sounds like the christian god is a petty liitle bitter man.

There are many great decent people who are going to hell according to the christian faith.

Seems like god is a bit of a twat!

EXACTLY. How is god a loving god and a twat at the same time? Also, if God is so omnipotent why do we assign him very human qualities such as "loving" or a "twat"? Christianity has NO answer for this.

[Bombardier]

I really think that Christianity needs a modern thinker to make it more relevant today. I don't mean someone who is a social *******, though I think that that would be helpful as well. But I'm thinking of someone here who can resolve Christianity with modern science and modern worldviews.

Martin Luther and the other Protestant thinkers took Christianity and remodeled it for a freer, more individualistic Europe than what existed in the Middle Ages. The basic tenets of Christianity were still there, so it's not as if anyone had to change what they believed in. We need someone like that today who can put Christanity in a context where it can be useful to people again. Despite the evangelical revival in the States, Christianity overall is a dying religion at the moment.

[Mr. Beelzebub]

George Carlin's views on religion are as close to being facts as I have ever heard.

[RAESAAD]

George Carlin's views on religion are as close to being facts as I have ever heard.

I tend to agree that was very funny but made alot of sense too.

[MickyHatton]

Catholic(non practicing) but I'm married to an Irish Prodestant, so what you may ask but its a big deal with the inlaws, the wedding was a right bag of laughs!!!

Bearing in mind they kill each other in Ireland over religion!

[The Noose]

Fair enough, you're not a Satanist. You were defending it so defiantly I figured you were. I don't disregard it without knowing it. I'm reading right from the Church of Satan website. So no, not ****** at all.



Well, it IS about Satan, so you are wrong. If you're going to defend it, defend what it is about instead of trying to make into something else. This is directly from the website:

we are the first above-ground organization in history openly dedicated to the acceptance of Man’s true nature—that of a carnal beast, living in a cosmos which is permeated and motivated by the Dark Force which we call Satan. Over the course of time, Man has called this Force by many names, and it has been reviled by those whose very nature causes them to be separate from this fountainhead of existence. They live in obsessive envy of we who exist by flowing naturally with the dread Prince of Darkness. It is for this reason that individuals who resonate with Satan have always been an alien elite

If you wanna try to spin how Satanism how little or nothing to do with Satan, go ahead.

lol, i have already stated it is symbolic. Never said it has nothing to do with Satan. Anyone who actually believes in Satan is a fool. If u keep on reading.....u have spent all of ten minutes reading from the website and think u know wat u are talking about.



Man...you seem to have a really tough time with coloquial English. "Who ****s everyone?" Obviously, this means being promiscous. There are plenty of cases when consentual *** is wrong, such as when it is engaged in by people that are cheating on their spouses, is used to hurt someone in some way emotionally, or occurs between a minor and an adult. Just because it is consentual, that doesn't make it ok.




The Bible does not say that, and again, you are misleading everyone. I never said the Bible says that. The Bible does say thall shalt not kill, which if you take it literally means you cannot kill in any case. Or, you might interpret that you can kill in self defense. In any case, the issue is MURDER. Let's go over this again, kids. You seen it as a fault that the Bible threatens people with eternal damnation, and my retort was basically: "No ****, it threatens people who are immoral and need to act right, like murderers and sluts, so what?"

So is it wrong to kill somone for the right reasons or not? Are soilders murders? I know u can justify some murder, but where in the bible does it say, its u must use commons sense?

to me, its common sense to think that jesus didnt die and return to life. Or that god created the world in seven days.



Immorality is subjective. Right and wrong are subjective. The problem i have with somone saying that the bible is the word of God, is that the bible can be interpretated in hundreds of different ways, and therefore can be used to justify somones ******ity.
And with the punishment of hell as a threat, who is going to heaven?
With everyone leading different lives, some murders being justified by some and condemmnd by others. It kinda is a big grey area.


Yes we must use common sense. But some people take it literally. Some say its the word of God, yet dont take it literally.

Ok, if you feel that way, fine. But since when is giving in to temptations and pleasures the way to go? Again, common sense. "If it feels good do it" is common sense?

Every sistuation is different. Theres nothing wrong with giving in to a temptation if its not hurting anyone.


Well, actually, as proven earlier, no I didn't do that. But I can see how your views might be swayed by antagonistics, so that's understandable.

Basically, i dont understand why if somone doesnt believe in jesus, or god, will be sent to hell. If they are a good person in general, learn from their mistakes, follow their heart, but dont ask for forgiveness from god (could be true of many satanists) yet still according to christianity will go to hell.

Isnt that ****ed up to u?