i wish i could part the ocean
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Well you are entitled to your opinion, I dont think that all those things are ****** or idiotic, I do question some though. Anton LaVey wrote the Satanic Bible and was the founder of the first Satanic Church, if I recall in San Fransisco. I also wouldn't call Anton LaVey incompetent or any of the other adjectives you used.Originally posted by ReneV
Well I am not a satanist, I am agnostic. Try not assuming things. Also Jesus is not god, get your facts straight.Originally posted by ReneV
isnt there something in the bible about casting the first stone ect? anyways, I dont recall god dieing for anyones sins, are you confused again? and as far as gods will that I live another day...well yeah whatever.Originally posted by ReneV
Christians don't need to follow the Ten Commandments? Well that must be the most ignorant and dumbest thing you have stated, funny thing is that most cristians dont know **** about their own religion, the ten commandments are there for you to follow no matter what. So I guess its ok for Christians to just murder anyone they want? And in all actuallity I take responcibility for my own actions I do not need any mythical figure to do so for me, why don't you think about that for a bit.Originally posted by ReneVComment
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You just said "try not assuming things,also Jesus is not God get your facts straight?" According to the bible my facts are straight Jesus is God.You on the other hand is the one assuming things with saying "jesus is not god" That's just your assumption just because you refuse to believe it.but it still doesn't change the fact that Jesus is God. The one that is very confuse is you were you stated "I don't recall god dieing for our sins" It's basically all over the bible with even the most popular verse John 3:16. And you can't have it any clearer in 1 Corinthians 15:3"For I delivered unto you first of all that wish I also recieved, How that CHRIST DIED FOR OUR SINS according to the scriptures..Originally posted by JJHoover
But you couldn't understand this being so confused that you can't understand a more clearer verse.But it's ok I understand, In your unregenerated dead state you have not one clue of what the scriptures are saying. The most funny thing is that in your pathetic ignorance you try to quote from them not knowing what they are actually saying. I'll make it more simple for you in Galations 2:16 says "Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law(ten commandments), But by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, AND NOT BY THE WORKS OF THE LAW(TEN COMMANDMENTS)shall NO flesh(us)be justified./also Romans 3:19-20,/ Romans 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life IN CHRIST JESUS hath made ME FREE from the law of sin(ten commandments)and death. And to your last assumption(hypocracy by the way,accusing me of this then your assuming things) No it's not ok for christians to just murder anyone they want or to do whatever they want. A real christian knows this. even the bible says this in Romans 6:1-2(speaking to christians) "What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? God forbid. How shall we that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?" We will see how much of a "mythical figure" Jesus is the day that you die. Your own words of "I don't need and I take responsibility for my own actions"(that you will I promise you that.)these words will be brought up before you and will condemn yourself. Matthew 12:36 But I say unto you, that every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give an account thereof in the day of judgement. That peek-a-boo I don't see you game that your playing with God will not make him go away, The "all is well there is no hell" attitude will not help either. You can try to rationalize it all you want with all kinds of philosophy, You can close your eyes to this truth all you want but it will not go away. Your still headed for a judgement. And it won't be satan on the throne as your judge,it will be Jesus Christ. And guess were you are headed, In your confusion if you don't know I will just tell you this much, your in for a big surprise. It's Jesus way and there is no highway!Comment
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I am sorry if any find the post offenceive it is not the intent, just expressing my views concerning this.
Originally posted by ReneV
John 14:28
You heard that I said to you, 'I go away, and I will come to you ' If you loved Me, you would have rejoiced because I go to the Father, for the Father is greater than I.
Matthew 27:46
About the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, saying, "ELI, ELI, LAMA SABACHTHANI?" that is, "MY GOD, MY GOD, WHY HAVE YOU FORSAKEN ME?"
hmm I think that pretty much sums up that Jesus is not god.
as I said God did not die for our sins, it was Jesus who are not one in the same.Originally posted by ReneV
uh yeah ok.Originally posted by ReneV
Mark 10:17-19Originally posted by ReneV
As He was setting out on a journey, a man ran up to Him and knelt before Him, and asked Him, "Good Teacher, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?" And Jesus said to him, "Why do you call Me good? No one is good except God alone. "You know the commandments, 'DO NOT MURDER, DO NOT COMMIT ADULTERY, DO NOT STEAL, DO NOT BEAR FALSE WITNESS, Do not defraud, HONOR YOUR FATHER AND MOTHER.'"
Mathew 5:17-19
"Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill. "For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished. "Whoever then annuls one of the least of these commandments, and teaches others to do the same, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever keeps and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven
gee there Jesus is saying to follow the Ten Commandments as well as stateing he isn't god.
Some other wonderful things having to do with god and Jesus...
****:
Numbers 31:17-18
Now therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known man intimately. But all the girls who have not known man intimately, spare for yourselves.
Deuteronomy 22:28-29
"If a man finds a girl who is a ******, who is not engaged, and seizes her and lies with her and they are discovered, then the man who lay with her shall give to the girl's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall become his wife because he has violated her; he cannot divorce her all his days.
Zechariah 14:1-2
Behold, a day is coming for the LORD when the spoil taken from you will be divided among you. For I will gather all the nations against Jerusalem to battle, and the city will be captured, the houses plundered, the women ravished and half of the city exiled, but the rest of the people will not be cut off from the city.
Slavery:
Exodus 21:7
If a man sells his daughter as a female slave, she is not to go free as the male ****** do.
Leviticus 25:44-46
As for your male and female ****** whom you may have--you may acquire male and female ****** from the pagan nations that are around you. Then, too, it is out of the sons of the sojourners who live as aliens among you that you may gain acquisition, and out of their families who are with you, whom they will have produced in your land; they also may become your possession. You may even bequeath them to your sons after you, to receive as a possession; you can use them as permanent ******. But in respect to your countrymen, the sons of Israel, you shall not rule with severity over one another.
Exodus 21:2-6
21:2-6If you buy a Hebrew slave, he is to serve for only six years. Set him free in the seventh year, and he will owe you nothing for his freedom. If he was single when he became your slave and then married afterward, only he will go free in the seventh year. But if he was married before he became a slave, then his wife will be freed with him. If his master gave him a wife while he was a slave, and they had sons or daughters, then the man will be free in the seventh year, but his wife and children will still belong to his master. But the slave may plainly declare, 'I love my master, my wife, and my children. I would rather not go free.' If he does this, his master must present him before God. Then his master must take him to the door and publicly pierce his ear with an awl. After that, the slave will belong to his master forever.
Ephesians 6:5
******, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ
1 Timothy 6:1-2
Christians who are ****** should give their masters full respect so that the name of God and his teaching will not be shamed. If your master is a Christian, that is no excuse for being disrespectful. You should work all the harder because you are helping another believer by your efforts. Teach these truths, Timothy, and encourage everyone to obey them.
Luke 12:47-48
The servant will be severely punished, for though he knew his duty, he refused to do it. "But people who are not aware that they are doing wrong will be punished only lightly. Much is required from those to whom much is given, and much more is required from those to whom much more is given."
Murders:
To many to go into, just remember god is a jealous and wrathful god, all natural disaters are his vengence as well as the wars faught in gods name.
To me god is nothing but a dictatoral tyrant who feeds and forces worship of him via fear *ETERNAL DAMNATION* well piss off I have no need to follow a god or anyone else such as that. Main reason we stopped Hitler from trying to essentially rule the world, by the way Hitler was a Christian to. The Bible has way to many contradictions in it for any intelligent being to be able to base "faith" upon it, it is nothing more than a sad excuse of a crutch for those that are to weak to stand on their own and for those that do not wish to take responcibility unto themselves.Comment
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thats the point. im a catholic but didnt believe jesus is god. coz he himself doesnt says he is god.Comment
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im the same thing, but i look to god for comfort in times of trouble, nothing else.Originally posted by raesaad
sorta like a backup kinda thing...Comment
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Praise be to AllahComment
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Originally posted by raesaad
that's my religion!Comment
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I do not have any crutches.
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