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    #41
    I agree with Tom Flores. My dad said it has to start early. There is no point when they are already in the double digit years its just too late.

    Do you all think kids arguing and talking back to you is part of growing up? Some who are against spanking say that is and its something you have to deal with as a parent.

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      #42
      Originally posted by Texanballer View Post
      I agree with Tom Flores. My dad said it has to start early. There is no point when they are already in the double digit years its just too late.

      Do you all think kids arguing and talking back to you is part of growing up? Some who are against spanking say that is and its something you have to deal with as a parent.

      Those are weak minded parents who lost control when the kid was one.
      The baby already learned that throwing a tantrum was enough to get what they wanted and just turned it over to talking back and yelling once they learned how to talk.

      My nephews, will practically **** on everyone else in the family but my wife and I. They know not to **** around in my house because they know they will get their ass whipped over here.

      Their mom, lol, they laugh at her. Now they're starting to talk back to the in laws too and just the other day at dinner, the in laws were telling me how they've had to start whipping some ass lately.

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        #43
        My baby girl is starting to make "berrinches", but my wife and myself stay strict, and she is starting learning that she will gain nothing with this attitude. I know it is early (she is 8 month old) but even at this age, the babys are smart enough to manipulate a weak parent

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          #44
          I don't have kids and don't plan on having them, but I'm sure if I do I'll end up beating the piss out of them.. I hate kids.

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            #45
            Originally posted by Texanballer View Post
            I agree with Tom Flores. My dad said it has to start early. There is no point when they are already in the double digit years its just too late.

            Do you all think kids arguing and talking back to you is part of growing up? Some who are against spanking say that is and its something you have to deal with as a parent.
            No, wrong. Those people are not against spanking, they are against discipline. You can have discipline without hitting people.

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              #46
              My mom always hit me as a child even though i always behaved good. My dad never layed a hand on me, not even once in my life.

              Results: I talk more with my dad, I respect him a lot more/no fear just respect, I obey him way more, when i'm in trouble i go to my dad, talk sports with my dad(of course), and I am influenced to raise my kids like he raised me as a opposed to how my mother raised me.

              With that said, I love my mother and I have nothing bad to say about her because I know she did it for my own good plus she stopped hitting me when I was 10.

              I just appreciate how my pops raised me because he showed me there's a way to get respect and love from your kid at the same time without using any violence against them. A lot of people say i act like my dad so i take that as a compliment and i hope i raise my kids like he did, he never touched any of my bros or sis and we're all in college and doing well, no drugs or nothing like that.

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                #47
                Originally posted by Texanballer View Post
                I agree with Tom Flores. My dad said it has to start early. There is no point when they are already in the double digit years its just too late.

                Do you all think kids arguing and talking back to you is part of growing up? Some who are against spanking say that is and its something you have to deal with as a parent.
                I talk back to my mother, and not my father. Why? idk, my dad never hit me, my mom did hit me. I'm no psychologist but it seems that because my dad earned his respect from me by taking care of me in a non violent manner and showing me right from wrong without laying a hand on me, i don't talk back to him and always obey him. opposed to my mother who always hit me, i talk back to her, i tell her to leave me alone, i don't obey her as much, and i do get a bit violent towards her but never to the point of physical violence, just tone-of-voice-violent. I'm no jerk or ******* and i do love her a lot and i always help her with money when i can. But it seems that i act the same way they raised me. Idk why, my mom raised in a violent way so that's how i am to her, my dad raised in a loving/caring way and that's how i am towards him.

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                  #48
                  If you're violent towards your kid then you will just get fear out of them instead of respect. A lot of friends I have that were raised violently by their parents, are now in jail, using drugs, always in street fights, drug dealers, and just up to no good.

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                    #49
                    Start early in effective discipline....then let them have their lighter discipline/controlled freedom in their teens. If you did it right...whatever you taught them should fly into thier teens and adulthood.

                    Putting them in the corner or their little room/closet is my choice of discipline.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Kevin Jesus View Post
                      If you're violent towards your kid then you will just get fear out of them instead of respect. A lot of friends I have that were raised violently by their parents, are now in jail, using drugs, always in street fights, drug dealers, and just up to no good.
                      I didnt mean raise kids with violence i meant discipline.

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