Tesla Truck

[4truth]

If I were actually thinking of buying an electric truck, which I'm not, I think I'd be going with the Rivian. In the real world, I'm looking at 20 year old Tundras.

[OldTerry]

Thanks my buddy
I’m always thinking about heat heat dissipation
as source of
near my home there are volcanic pools and sulfur.

my wife takes really hot baths and I try to keep up I turn kinds blue and fall down

My buddy greg and I couldn’t take volcanic mud baths and I felt really sick

I think a lot of smart guys are busy solving problems.

I like to know what things are made from

When I think about grain growth in metals I look at Jaxa. And the materials needed to make ceramic engines

I have a whole tribe of ceramic engines. I think they're Apache.

[Willie Pep 229]

I think you wold be amazed by Japanese designs and Kyoto ceramics

I Go to trade shows and see next generation engines.

japanese designs are cool

Israel shows up with advanced
AI and cool materials

ceramic bullets robots and a lot of medical stuff

when I compare technology I see Japan Germany and Israel as innovative

Isn't it interesting that all three are community driven cultures with a socialistic temperament.

That's where innovation come from.

A society capable of looking down the road a decade ahead and adjusting its R&D to achieve those goals.

Here in America we are driven by a three month fiscal year, and God help you if you don't please the stock holders each fiscal period.

Look at this moron Elon Musk. He takes over a successful company worth 44 billion with a happy productive work force.

He then calls them all lazy, fires have the crew, and like a good 20th Century dinosaur creates a vicious, anxious workplace with unhappy employees.

If the corporate structure was in fact so poor how come the damn company was worth 44 billiom dollars?

And now after he restructured it into a 20th century money-grabbing corporation, talking nothing but stock worth, it is no longer worth as much as it was when he bought it.

Our system sucks. It claims innovation but is really nothing more than a short term stock holders monetary grab. We blew it with our greed.

A Japanese CEO, when asked why he thought Japan's productivity was so much better that ours, replied: "When a problem arises in Japan we spend 10 minutes placing the blame and 50 minutes trying to solve the problem. I noticed in America you spend 50 minutes placing blame and only ten minutes trying to solve the problem."

Take a look at Donald *****, has he ever actually addressed a problem with a real solution or has he (and Elon Musk) just mastered the art of placing blame?

[billeau2]

Has anyone seen the Tesla truck up close, not in a photograph?

I did yesterday for the first time.

It is ridiculous looking; Like it was designed by George Jetson's animator; Like what you would expect a future car in a bad 1960s Sci fi film to look like; Like a very large child's toy.

You stand next to it and SYH; Have these engineers have no aesthetic sense?

The emperor has no clothes. It's basically a very expensive paperweight until infrastructure and battery capacity is reasonable. And it's so heavy that it goes through tires in like 1/4 of the time. I hate to say this cuz I don't like to stereotype but you really have to be an a****** to like this truck and drive it lol.

[billeau2]

Isn't it interesting that all three are community driven cultures with a socialistic temperament.

That's where innovation come from.

A society capable of looking down the road a decade ahead and adjusting its R&D to achieve those goals.

Here in America we are driven by a three month fiscal year, and God help you if you don't please the stock holders each fiscal period.

Look at this moron Elon Musk. He takes over a successful company worth 44 billion with a happy productive work force.

He then calls them all lazy, fires have the crew, and like a good 20th Century dinosaur creates a vicious, anxious workplace with unhappy employees.

If the corporate structure was in fact so poor how come the damn company was worth 44 billiom dollars?

And now after he restructured it into a 20th century money-grabbing corporation, talking nothing but stock worth, it is no longer worth as much as it was when he bought it.

Our system sucks. It claims innovation but is really nothing more than a short term stock holders monetary grab. We blew it with our greed.

A Japanese CEO, when asked why he thought Japan's productivity was so much better that ours, replied: "When a problem arises in Japan we spend 10 minutes placing the blame and 50 minutes trying to solve the problem. I noticed in America you spend 50 minutes placing blame and only ten minutes trying to solve the problem."

Take a look at Donald *****, has he ever actually addressed a problem with a real solution or has he (and Elon Musk) just mastered the art of placing blame?

BRAVO!!! Pep you are spitting the truth!

[BodiesInFlight]

It looks like some crackpot inventor whisked something up in his garage. Good in that regard.

From a company that is supposed the be the future of the auto industry? Its junk.

[billeau2]

It looks like some crackpot inventor whisked something up in his garage. Good in that regard.

From a company that is supposed the be the future of the auto industry? Its junk.

See heres the thing: To Grandpa Bernard and Man clown? How dare you critisize Muskie! He is soooo smart! So capable!!! Such a fabulous business man!! Tesla is the best car ever!! Toyotas who needs reliability when you can own a car that looks like a bad modern art piece, which is overpriced, and which if it breaks the repair bills are astronomical... and which can only go a few miles in the grand scheme of interstate travel. Muskie is good at selling drek, I would not own one if it was given to me.

[BodiesInFlight]

See heres the thing: To Grandpa Bernard and Man clown? How dare you critisize Muskie! He is soooo smart! So capable!!! Such a fabulous business man!! Tesla is the best car ever!! Toyotas who needs reliability when you can own a car that looks like a bad modern art piece, which is overpriced, and which if it breaks the repair bills are astronomical... and which can only go a few miles in the grand scheme of interstate travel. Muskie is good at selling drek, I would not own one if it was given to me.

I don't even think Tesla can sell that Truck in Europe because is won't pass basic regulations there. It's a vanity project.

The people that worship Musk as some crazy intelligent superhero inventor are weird. As far as I'm aware his expertise are in business, not rocket science or engineering.
He exposes himself pretty badly when he speaks on topics outside of his domain.

And whatever happened to his underground tunnels that was going to transform global transportation?

[billeau2]

I don't even think Tesla can sell that Truck in Europe because is won't pass basic regulations there. It's a vanity project.

The people that worship Musk as some crazy intelligent superhero inventor are weird. As far as I'm aware his expertise are in business, not rocket science or engineering.
He exposes himself pretty badly when he speaks on topics outside of his domain.

And whatever happened to his underground tunnels that was going to transform global transportation?

Those Tunnels? they are going to be built just as he sets up for people to land on Mars, Tesla trucks can be used as paper weights for the geodomes.

IMO even when he speaks of projects allegedly in his bailiwick he exposes himself lol.

[Willie Pep 229]

Now that I bashed Musk let me offer the otherside of what I am thinking.

Musk is a great entrepreneur!

But he is not a great innovator. He is not a Bessemer he is a Carnegie; he is not a Tesla he is an Edison.

He genius has been to take existing technology and find a way to make it marketable. That in itself is a form of genius but this claim that he is a man of the future is bogus.

Electric cars were innovated as early as 1905 but the technology wasn't ready to make it viable. His liquid fueled rockets are also a thing of the past and in no way answer the question of space exploration.

In fact, even the **** scientists working for us in the 1950s were developing a self contained rocket capable of landing intact as Musk's rocket does today, but when JFK threw out their 25 year plan of landing on the Moon, the **** scientists had no choice but to move away from their plan and go to the "throw away" system that took us to the Moon in 1969.

Had the scientists been left to their original plan we would have reached the Moon sometime in the late '70s or early '80s with a system capable of staying intact and making repeated flights to the Moon, like how aircraft today makes flying within the atmosphere ubiquitous.

Musk's is a 20th Century thinker. His Tesla is just a very fast golf cart. Brilliantly engineered but with not actual innovation. His business models are archaic and his visions unrealistic.

There is no shame in being a great entrepreneur, but an innovator he is not.

His name belongs on the list with Rockefella, Carnegie, and Ford, not with Tesla.