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    "They" can just keep fear mongering over these variants and run the money counter up to infinity. It's brilliant.

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      So doctors are saying if you get this it's very mild. Thats normal for a virus to be able to spread faster but not be as strong.

      The bad part if you buy thr BS. It might avoid the vaccines. Every single person we know that had the vax had had covid this year. So what's the difference? And if it's mild then who cares?

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        South Africa speaks and they're not happy.
        "they're using this to push boosters"

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          Originally posted by Citizen Koba View Post

          No, she had COVID first and then got the vaccine, that's how she could make the comparison. However she's the only one of all the friends or people I know of personally that had anything more than a day or two feeling slightly tired from vaccination. Honestly I didn't even feel that myself.
          Interesting. I had a sore shoulder for a few hours and that's it. Getting my booster in January. I also don't know anyone that got anything more than a mild reaction to the vaccine. Do you know which vaccine she got??
          Last edited by TonyGe; 11-29-2021, 05:33 AM.

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            Originally posted by TonyGe View Post

            Interesting. I had a sore shoulder for a few hours and that's it. Getting my booster in January. I also don't know anyone that got anything more than a mild reaction to the vaccine.
            It takes a couple of seconds to see the government data on vaccine side effects and deaths, and its not a small number & given the conflict of interest between big pharma & government, you would have to imagine the real numbers could be far higher.

            ' the vax must be safe cos everyone i know who got jabbed is fine' Its like saying there's no real pandemic because i dont know anyone thats got sick or died from covid.
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              Originally posted by mlac View Post

              It takes a couple of seconds to see the government data on vaccine side effects and deaths, and its not a small number & given the conflict of interest between big pharma & government, you would have to imagine the real numbers could be far higher.

              ' the vax must be safe cos everyone i know who got jabbed is fine' Its like saying there's no real pandemic because i dont know anyone thats got sick or died from covid.
              Post the data on side effects for any vaccine or medicine in the history of humanity you terribly ignorant cretin.

              All medicines have side effects.

              You don’t know anyone who got sick or died isn’t evidence. It’s anecdotal and it doesn’t mean Jack ****.


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                Originally posted by mlac View Post

                It takes a couple of seconds to see the government data on vaccine side effects and deaths, and its not a small number & given the conflict of interest between big pharma & government, you would have to imagine the real numbers could be far higher.

                ' the vax must be safe cos everyone i know who got jabbed is fine' Its like saying there's no real pandemic because i dont know anyone thats got sick or died from covid.
                I know of people that got sick from Covid and had to get treatment but not from being vaccinated.

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                  Originally posted by TonyGe View Post

                  Interesting. I had a sore shoulder for a few hours and that's it. Getting my booster in January. I also don't know anyone that got anything more than a mild reaction to the vaccine. Do you know which vaccine she got??
                  I think it was A/Z but I had the A/Z myself with zero ill effects nor do I know anyone else who had any significant reaction to it all... just one of them random things I guess. That said she's totally fine now and doesn'r seem to have had lasting effects.

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                    Originally posted by Dakuwaqa View Post

                    Post the data on side effects for any vaccine or medicine in the history of humanity you terribly ignorant cretin.

                    All medicines have side effects.

                    You don’t know anyone who got sick or died isn’t evidence. It’s anecdotal and it doesn’t mean Jack ****.

                    oh look im being attacked by the cult of covidians for making simple points that they still cant comprehend. ****ing hell.

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                      Originally posted by mlac View Post

                      It takes a couple of seconds to see the government data on vaccine side effects and deaths, and its not a small number & given the conflict of interest between big pharma & government, you would have to imagine the real numbers could be far higher.

                      ' the vax must be safe cos everyone i know who got jabbed is fine' Its like saying there's no real pandemic because i dont know anyone thats got sick or died from covid.
                      Can you post it? You do know that adverse event reporting systems like VAERS or EudraVigilance or YellowCard aare only really useful for identifying patterns and trends for further investigation don't you? Just because someone had a heart attack or developed breathoing difficulties within a few weeks or months of getting vaccinated does not imply that it was the vaccine that caused the illness. People, especially the elderly, get ill all the time in their thousands, whether they're vaccinated or not and whether it's COVID related or not. If an 90 year old dear from Hull dies 4 months after getting vaccinated it does not necessarily make it a 'vaccine death' but it will still be recorded on the Yellow Card system as potentially wothy of further investigation even if it turns out to have been simply old age or a pre-existing condition.

                      FWIW the warnings about this and the limitations of the use of the data they collect is stated quite clearly on all the relevent websites but people - mainly people with an agenda - continually attempt to use it to make arguments which it simply doesn't support. You find these same arguments crop up continually over and over in slightly different forms and no-one ever seems to want to take the time to understand the purpose and function of these kindsa databases.

                      Think about it like this - if the systems weren't working how were they able to pick up rare and generally mild myocardias in 1/100000 cases which have caused a shift in vaccine recommendations in several low COVID risk countries but somehow missed all these 10s of thousands of vaccine related fatalities which seem to be indicated if the data was really a direct reflection of events definitely attributable to vaccination?

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